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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby Hycinth » 11 Dec 2015, 17:26

Implement this:

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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby SecretStamos (Joshuu) » 11 Dec 2015, 20:36

That's from the Aliens: Resurrection setting, which is two centuries later.
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby monkeysfist101 » 11 Dec 2015, 20:48

You don't need the double burner. All you need in an M41, an incinerator unit, and a roll of duct tape.
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby apophis775 » 12 Dec 2015, 06:32

I'd have to talk to abby about flamethrowers, as they currently don't function as normal flamethrowers, but create "magic" fire.
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby Hycinth » 12 Dec 2015, 06:39

apophis775 wrote:I'd have to talk to abby about flamethrowers, as they currently don't function as normal flamethrowers, but create "magic" fire.




Mhm! Alternate solution, apop: Just make them use welder fuel as a fuel counter instead of phoron, and just have it spawn a welder fuel tank with the loadout. Just click the welder tank with the flamethrower, boom, reloaded.
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby Jeser » 12 Dec 2015, 07:00

Hycinth wrote:Just click the welder tank with the flamethrower, boom, reloaded.


Uh, maybe, we can do it without "boom"? :(

As general, great idea. Though, I have my arms growing from my ass, that's why I'll never use flamer again ._.
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby Hycinth » 12 Dec 2015, 07:16

Ahaha. The boom is only if it's lit!
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby apophis775 » 12 Dec 2015, 18:19

Ok, Accepted, and here's what I'm thinking right now:

I'll lower the amount of fuel flamethrowers need
A shift from plasma to welding tanks (similar to how buckets work with water tanks).
Slightly increased damage
Slightly decreased lingering flame
Possibly light xenos on fire (I'll look into the same way the sniper rifle does it).

Sounds good?
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby Arachnidnexus » 12 Dec 2015, 18:23

The switch to welding fuel would be great. Although I do hope that the chance to set a xeno on fire also applies to marines for that Aliens feel.
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby SkyeAuroline » 12 Dec 2015, 19:17

apophis775 wrote:I'll lower the amount of fuel flamethrowers need
An amount would be nice, but this is appreciated.

A shift from plasma to welding tanks (similar to how buckets work with water tanks).
No real fault with this.

Slightly increased damage
Completely useless if they don't ignite xenos. "Slightly increased" from nearly zero is still nearly zero.

Slightly decreased lingering flame
Means that it's not an area denial tool any more.

Possibly light xenos on fire (I'll look into the same way the sniper rifle does it).
The flamethrower is, has been, and always will be useless until it is guaranteed or near guaranteed to actually light xenos on fire. No one fears a zero-damage weapon.
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby Hycinth » 12 Dec 2015, 19:17

apophis775 wrote:Ok, Accepted, and here's what I'm thinking right now:

I'll lower the amount of fuel flamethrowers need
A shift from plasma to welding tanks (similar to how buckets work with water tanks).
Slightly increased damage
Slightly decreased lingering flame
Possibly light xenos on fire (I'll look into the same way the sniper rifle does it).

Sounds good?


Sounds lovely. Would you be incorporating the fuel directly to flamethrower (no tanks needed) to imply that it's linefed, or via the tanks somehow taking from the welder backpack?

Also, the loadout itself (armor, etc) rather than just the flamer fuel switch/mechanics changes are accepted as well, yes?
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby Tristan63 » 25 Jan 2016, 23:11

cant help but say man, HOLY PROTHEMIUM!
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby Azmodan412 » 25 Jan 2016, 23:17

Tristan63 wrote:cant help but say man, HOLY PROTHEMIUM!


*flashbacks to If the Emperor had Text to Talk.*
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby Tristan63 » 25 Jan 2016, 23:20

Azmodan412 wrote:
Tristan63 wrote:cant help but say man, HOLY PROTHEMIUM!


*flashbacks to If the Emperor had Text to Talk.*


Have you seen the last episode for this season?
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby Azmodan412 » 26 Jan 2016, 10:32

Tristan63 wrote:
Azmodan412 wrote:
Tristan63 wrote:cant help but say man, HOLY PROTHEMIUM!


*flashbacks to If the Emperor had Text to Talk.*


Have you seen the last episode for this season?


I am a horrible person, I have not.
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby Tristan63 » 26 Jan 2016, 16:16

Azmodan412 wrote:
Tristan63 wrote:
Azmodan412 wrote:
Tristan63 wrote:cant help but say man, HOLY PROTHEMIUM!


*flashbacks to If the Emperor had Text to Talk.*


Have you seen the last episode for this season?


I am a horrible person, I have not.


Bloody do eet watch it all over
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby DesFrSpace » 25 Feb 2016, 19:41

NOTE: Please do not get the welding tank on fire. Moving Flame to welding fuel sound perfect. Hence you going to see Marine walking around with welding kit pack. But please make sure the welding kit does not blow up.
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby Easy-Ivan » 29 Oct 2016, 20:46

Okay, so, suddenly i realized i`m able to write here and here`s what me think:
Give this to usual Marines, not specialists.
Specialist won`t waste their opportunity to have SADARS or whatever on flamers so it`ll surely became abandoned. However, marine job is not so demanding so there is usually one or two carrying flamables. That`s why adding an ID-locked locker for a marine with special role would be a good decision, in my opinion.
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby Jeser » 30 Oct 2016, 01:54

Easy-Ivan wrote:Okay, so, suddenly i realized i`m able to write here and here`s what me think:
Give this to usual Marines, not specialists.
Specialist won`t waste their opportunity to have SADARS or whatever on flamers so it`ll surely became abandoned. However, marine job is not so demanding so there is usually one or two carrying flamables. That`s why adding an ID-locked locker for a marine with special role would be a good decision, in my opinion.


Yeah, spending coin on weapon, which can't hurt two most dangerous T3s - Ravager and Queen. No Spec would ever do that. ALl other weapons can at least scare off these two, at most, they can effectively help to kill them. Only retarded Spec would take flamer.
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby Sars Clayton » 30 Oct 2016, 02:31

Heres a suggestion, remember AVP that rebellion one, why no add the ability from their flamers to pour fuel on the ground as a secondary fire to the gun.
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby DesFrSpace » 30 Oct 2016, 09:29

Ah, @Sars Clayton, fuel on the ground, that is a SS13 thing, all you have to do is wrench an Fuel tank and well ignite it.
Though I did not get to lighting one up though.
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby Sars Clayton » 31 Oct 2016, 03:28

Ya I know about the fuel tank, which made me think it maybe wouldn't be too hard to implement into the gun. But I meant if would be a guns special action, until you turn it off it will leak fuel on the ground and drain the ammo.
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby Polkjm » 04 Nov 2016, 21:27

This would only be worth it if you can actually carry a huge fuel tank on your back equal to, say, 30 canisters, and even then it would be very susceptible to FFing.
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby Casany » 04 Nov 2016, 21:47

Why is this not been implemented!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Flame Specialist Loadout option

Postby Jeser » 05 Nov 2016, 02:25

Still, guys, WHAT spec will take this option, if it's can't do shit to MOST dangerous aliens: Queen/Empress and Ravager? It's would be a waste of coin, seriously.
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