Are Xenos really the scummy team?

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Are Xenos really the scummy team?

Post by Kris P Kreme » 30 Oct 2017, 19:21

>Be Xeno
>Protect hosts like a good sentinel
>30 minutes, constant upgrades because the Tier system is aids and every runner rushed hunter
>"Finally Ancient!"
>goes off
>picks off a guy
>wounded, so goes to lay at a nest in some building not too far from fighting
>gets fucking nuked by some CAS nerd whos not even close to the combat, no indication that there was gonna be a CAS
>dies in fire the size of Delta prep
>CAS gets 10 xeno kills from pressing one button
>:ok_hand:

sure being pounced on by some nerd is annoying, but not as annoying as doing fuck all for 30 minutes only to get insta nuked the second you can be useful because a marine pressed a button in a flight console

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Re: Are Xenos really the scummy team?

Post by BladeBr » 30 Oct 2017, 19:27

boi, you get a big red laze that blinks and thyat is bigger than everything. like, it blinks before even shooting. how didn't you saw it?

if it's OB, then it's alright. Xenos deserve to be killed.
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Re: Are Xenos really the scummy team?

Post by Skimmy2 » 30 Oct 2017, 21:21

Kris P Kreme wrote:
30 Oct 2017, 19:21
sure being pounced on by some nerd is annoying, but not as annoying as doing fuck all for 30 minutes only to get insta nuked the second you can be useful because a marine pressed a button in a flight console
Literally every fucking marine is that brah.
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Re: Are Xenos really the scummy team?

Post by yung bruh » 30 Oct 2017, 22:28

CAS is avoidable and so is OB if you see the beacon and you've seen an OB firsthand so you can RP knowing there's an OB without metagaming but either way people metagame. It was probably you're fault you got OB'd lol. Getting pounced on by a Xeno and then dying isn't very fun either, especially for the players who don't want to rejoin and play as a Xeno from the salt of dying (aka me.)
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Re: Are Xenos really the scummy team?

Post by KEY » 30 Oct 2017, 23:20

>Be marine
>30 minutes of prep, getting ammo and attatchments
>Walking through big red
>Blob of gas strikes behind us, all marines in it drop dead on the spot
>Can't go back for back is death
>But forward is a line of three ravagers running forward with charge
>Can't go forward
>Can't go backwards.
>Decapped by three ravagers at once.

Yeah, Xenos aren't the scummy team.
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Re: Are Xenos really the scummy team?

Post by Heckenshutze » 31 Oct 2017, 00:59

You are scum.

Xeno scum.
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Re: Are Xenos really the scummy team?

Post by solidfury7 » 31 Oct 2017, 06:12

Kris P Kreme wrote:
30 Oct 2017, 19:21
>Be Xeno
>Protect hosts like a good sentinel
>30 minutes, constant upgrades because the Tier system is aids and every runner rushed hunter
>"Finally Ancient!"
>goes off
>picks off a guy
>wounded, so goes to lay at a nest in some building not too far from fighting
>gets fucking nuked by some CAS nerd whos not even close to the combat, no indication that there was gonna be a CAS
>dies in fire the size of Delta prep
>CAS gets 10 xeno kills from pressing one button
>:ok_hand:

sure being pounced on by some nerd is annoying, but not as annoying as doing fuck all for 30 minutes only to get insta nuked the second you can be useful because a marine pressed a button in a flight console
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Re: Are Xenos really the scummy team?

Post by Steelpoint » 31 Oct 2017, 07:19

The only scummy thing I find at all in the game are Queens combat nesting entire squads of Marines post-screech.

Otherwise Marines and Aliens are in the same boat. Both sides spend a lot of time prepping for the role and many of them die unexpectedly or prematurely. Its the simple nature of the game.
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Re: Are Xenos really the scummy team?

Post by Symbiosis » 01 Nov 2017, 07:14

10 Xenos killed by CAS? Have Xeno Mains became so... special... that they rush the blinking red and green light?!

Marines will have to be equipped with nerf guns to compensate for this!
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Post by ghostdex » 01 Nov 2017, 09:58

Xeno players are good horrible horrible monsters people
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Re: Are Xenos really the scummy team?

Post by NGGJamie » 01 Nov 2017, 10:35

Symbiosis wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 07:14
10 Xenos killed by CAS? Have Xeno Mains became so... special... that they rush the blinking red and green light?!

Marines will have to be equipped with nerf guns to compensate for this!
Xenos in lore are attracted to blinking lights and shiny things. Maybe they're just the superior breed of roleplayers
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Re: Are Xenos really the scummy team?

Post by Steelpoint » 01 Nov 2017, 10:53

When I play as a Xeno, and we've not yet seen a CAS be deployed, I tend to ignore the CAS light and will not actively go out of my way to avoid it, if I die to it then I die.

After it's used first, and someone informs us of such on the hivemind, then I'll be wary of it.

More a personal limitation than anything else.
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Re: Are Xenos really the scummy team?

Post by BladeBr » 01 Nov 2017, 11:26

Steelpoint wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 10:53
When I play as a Xeno, and we've not yet seen a CAS be deployed, I tend to ignore the CAS light and will not actively go out of my way to avoid it, if I die to it then I die.

After it's used first, and someone informs us of such on the hivemind, then I'll be wary of it.

More a personal limitation than anything else.
sad part is when the guy avodis thet light and say actively "don't go to the light or you will die!" when it haven't even seen it in action
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Post by JKincaid » 01 Nov 2017, 11:35

Steelpoint wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 10:53
When I play as a Xeno, and we've not yet seen a CAS be deployed, I tend to ignore the CAS light and will not actively go out of my way to avoid it, if I die to it then I die.

After it's used first, and someone informs us of such on the hivemind, then I'll be wary of it.

More a personal limitation than anything else.
You are among a very few people who play xenos and don't fucking meta the laser. I've only seen it a couple of times, but whenever I see xenos examine the laser and not flee on first contact, I want to give that player a cookie.

I remember once I was spectating Xenos and an Elite Hunter walked up and started examining the laser going "What's this thing?" A fatty freaking splattered him and the entire hive started freaking out about sky fire. That was so damned funny.
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Re: Are Xenos really the scummy team?

Post by Szunti » 01 Nov 2017, 11:45

Marines meta huggers, eggs, xeno abilities, xeno tiers (eg. rush a drone, but not a sentinel), tunnels and immediately shoot xenos on first contact. Xenos meta the laser, OB, mines.

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Post by Symbiosis » 01 Nov 2017, 12:11

Szunti wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 11:45
Marines meta huggers, eggs, xeno abilities, xeno tiers (eg. rush a drone, but not a sentinel), tunnels and immediately shoot xenos on first contact. Xenos meta the laser, OB, mines.
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Post by BladeBr » 01 Nov 2017, 12:16

Szunti wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 11:45
Marines meta huggers, eggs, xeno abilities, xeno tiers (eg. rush a drone, but not a sentinel), tunnels and immediately shoot xenos on first contact. Xenos meta the laser, OB, mines.
I can attest to that points:
Huggers and eggs: actually no, if we go by percentages, more marines get hugged by egg/carrier than actually destroying then. Legit, marines 85% of time get hugged first before we get a general comms saying the eggs are filled with parasites. and even then, it needs to be a general hugging, like 6-8 marines for this to happen.

xeno abilities: the acid glob is...well, acidic. one marine hit by it get paincrit and fall on the ground so fast that it's about reflexes. like, you are hit by acid, you mvoe as fast as you can from this place, and EVEN THEN there are marines that fall for it.

Even the queen screech is something marines fall for before being reported (and even then, praes and queens are so equal in sprites they just shoot both of then equally)

Xeno tiers: bro, between a drone and a sentinel that, if you don't have any medium-long range weapon you can't barely see and shoot, I will pick the drone. Since I CAN ACTUALLY see the bastard coming towards me. Also, what even a drone is doing in the battlefield?

tunnels: yeah. I hate tunnels. My IC reason is that I want blow up rabbits. I am that dick as XO.

shooting xenos at first contact is done only by dumb baldies. also, upon landing, there are always a young runner (420) rushing marines and slashing then for gods know's why.
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Re: Are Xenos really the scummy team?

Post by Skimmy2 » 01 Nov 2017, 15:26

JKincaid wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 11:35
You are among a very few people who play xenos and don't fucking meta the laser. I've only seen it a couple of times, but whenever I see xenos examine the laser and not flee on first contact, I want to give that player a cookie.

I remember once I was spectating Xenos and an Elite Hunter walked up and started examining the laser going "What's this thing?" A fatty freaking splattered him and the entire hive started freaking out about sky fire. That was so damned funny.
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Re: Are Xenos really the scummy team?

Post by Robotic Potato » 01 Nov 2017, 15:40

>Be me Delta Spec
>Be lucky enough to get Heavy Grenadier because of RNG making me not too hungry
>Get stuck on FoB duty
>Stand around for ages
>Finally get told I can go fight by command
>Marines are in the caves
>Run in
>Queen sees me and screeches
>I nade her, but sadly her stun is less then me
>Combat nested
>Stunned while nested
>Get dragged to another nest
>Gibbed

TL;DR Xenos are the scummy ones.
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Re: Are Xenos really the scummy team?

Post by Reuben Owen » 01 Nov 2017, 15:45

the way xenos work they're general built to be more scummy than marines

-stronger (or at least faster due to nightvision) than the average marine, enabling them to rambo/ go out by themselves so much it's not even considered ramboing
-nightvision, which can (and is supposed to be by design) be abused
-perfect healing, can try and try and try and try again without repercussion as long as they survive each time
-ic supposed to abuse everything (ic-knowledge wise) to win
-evolve system and above factors combine to value efficiency and survival above all else in a average xeno player

the only thing I will say is that xenos will, more often then marines, try to rescue their downed/crit sisters, even in dangerous situations (how many times has a t3 died trying to save a t1? etc)
I would guess because each individual life matters more to them, and they all share ooc anonymity that is reciprocated to them in turn each round when they need it

xenos r built to play dirty git gud
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Re: Are Xenos really the scummy team?

Post by Incomptinence » 01 Nov 2017, 17:48

Put your cas dot on the other side of their resin walls.

Not being able to see items through walls makes fools of most xenos.

Also it's not like getting hugged is an ensured kill like most of the things listed in this thread. Especially when it's some isolated egg away from xenos in fact a few of marines press on to use their while infected hugger immunity as an asset every round. Even to the point of bursting.

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Post by JKincaid » 01 Nov 2017, 19:58

Szunti wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 11:45
Marines meta huggers, eggs, xeno abilities, xeno tiers (eg. rush a drone, but not a sentinel), tunnels and immediately shoot xenos on first contact. Xenos meta the laser, OB, mines.
A lot of times marines actually don't meta the eggs or huggers. However if you were a marine, encountered a strange alien on a planet you've never been before and suddenly got throat raped by a spider the size of your chest. I think you'd want a medical checkup. Even so some marines will just fight on with a chestburster inside of them. Xeno abilities? I can only think of one being meta'd, and that'd be queen screech. Even with people trying to meta that, it's virtually guaranteed to stun 5+ marines each time its used.

Tunnels do get super fucking meta'd, but they're kind of a poorly implemented mechanic as is...

As for firing on first contact. If I go into a colony at night, that has no lights, no colonists (living) to explain what's happened... and find bloody bodies everywhere. I'm probably going to put two and two together the moment I see this: Image.

Xenos will also meta marine classes on first contact, go after medics and engineers harder than PFC's. If you're an unlucky spec who gets picked out your round will be ended immediately. Hell aliens don't even try to nest B18 specs anymore, they just kill, then drag their bodies half a mile away, or have the queen gib them.

Meta happens on both sides, But marines tend to get the short end of the stick more than aliens do in the war of metas based on game design.
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Post by manezinho » 02 Nov 2017, 00:02

JKincaid wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 19:58
A lot of times marines actually don't meta the eggs or huggers. However if you were a marine, encountered a strange alien on a planet you've never been before and suddenly got throat raped by a spider the size of your chest. I think you'd want a medical checkup.
Don't know if this is on topic but don't facehuggers make their host pass out and have a very small chance of remembering the face hugging? At least, that's what I remember hearing.
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Post by JKincaid » 02 Nov 2017, 00:48

manezinho wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 00:02
Don't know if this is on topic but don't facehuggers make their host pass out and have a very small chance of remembering the face hugging? At least, that's what I remember hearing.
If you've been facehugged you blackout. You don't necessarily gain amnesia of the events before the hugging. I think that's more of a chance due to concussion. We've ween in the movies that people hugged by the facehuggers who have seen the creatures before can feel things moving in their chest and the likes. I also imagine that having a bunch of marines around you going "You got face fucked by a crab" Would goad you into seeing a doctor.

Still, even getting on the almayer doesn't guarantee you'll live. As many doctors will RP out the first exposure to the creatures, saying that the mass in the chest could just be shrapnel and the likes. Generally enough to get you to pop while they're leading around to doing surgery.
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Re: Are Xenos really the scummy team?

Post by Winter » 02 Nov 2017, 01:22

Yes, they should at least buy you dinner before the face humping.

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