A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]/[Omega]

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A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]/[Omega]

Post by TopHatPenguin » 10 Jan 2017, 15:14

This is an updated firing lane and bullet path guide from my previous PA one which is applicable to the current iteration of CM.


General introduction to Bullet paths:
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Firing with friendlies nearby:
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Firing Through Doors:
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Firing at enemies behind cover:
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Firing at moving targets:
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Fanning:
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Diagonal Firing, Aka firing through girders:
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Where to Aim:
This question is normally asked quite alot in OOC, some players will state the head, some state that the groin or arm is better to aim at. In all honesty it's up to personnel preference where you aim as you do the same amount of damage no matter where you hit, generally though it's better to aim at the chest, yes you may break their ribs and cause a lung to be punctured but atleast some of your shots if you do end up ffing will be absorbed by the armour, compared to aiming at the arms or groin which has a lower chance to absorb the damage. If you do aim at the chest you are also more likely to hit your target instead of "The bullet misses ancient hunter (658)"

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Remember that you can fire buckshot into a hunter if they pounce a marine next to you, runners you can as well but only if you are quick on the draw, but luckily for you the higher the upgraded runner the longer they are stunned in their own pounce. If you're wondering as to why my cursor is behind the hunter instead of on the hunters sprite it's so that the marine on the ground doesn't get filled with lead, the same also applies to xenos so if you see a stunned or sleeping xeno you need to click it directly to hit it otherwise the bullets will just fly over it.
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Remember that you have to stand behind cover for it to have a better chance to protect you from enemy projectiles.
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Increasing the accuracy of your weapon with attachments will affect your miss chance and also your penetration chance. The more accurate your gun is due to attachments the less likely your bullets will miss and the more likely your bullets will penetrate that thick exoskeleton of that pesky xenomorph.
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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha] - WiP

Post by Lokiki_01 » 10 Jan 2017, 15:26

Wooks, add a thing about shooting around far corners, like: You're clicking on xenos - hitting wall, but when clicking behind xeno - bullets will hit him
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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha] - WiP

Post by TopHatPenguin » 10 Jan 2017, 15:28

Lokiki_01 wrote:Wooks, add a thing about shooting around far corners, like: You're clicking on xenos - hitting wall, but when clicking behind xeno - bullets will hit him
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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by Eenkogneeto » 10 Jan 2017, 19:29

Actually very detailed, Most of this is stuff that comes naturally to me, but i've been playing SS13 for a good 6-7+ years. Good work. Suggest you give a gif demonstrating 'Fanning' around obstructions with burstfire. Being you click and then step to clear the line of fire.
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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by TopHatPenguin » 10 Jan 2017, 19:40

Eenkogneeto wrote:Actually very detailed, Most of this is stuff that comes naturally to me, but i've been playing SS13 for a good 6-7+ years. Good work. Suggest you give a gif demonstrating 'Fanning' around obstructions with burstfire. Being you click and then step to clear the line of fire.
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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by Karmac » 10 Jan 2017, 20:16

Use a pulse rifle with accuracy mods for a more accurate representation of what you want to happen.
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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by TopHatPenguin » 10 Jan 2017, 20:39

Carmac wrote:Use a pulse rifle with accuracy mods for a more accurate representation of what you want to happen.
A standard rifle with no attachments is perfectly fine for this, you'll hit along those squares for a lot of shots. Granted having accuracy mods would increase the amount of shots that hit, but for this guide it wasn't needed.

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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by Renomaki » 11 Jan 2017, 22:49

You should also update the fact how firing from behind a table/barricade won't protect you unless you are a tile BEHIND the cover in question.

I discovered that players standing directly on the tile of a flipped table can still be hit with bullets/spits, whereas if you stand behind the table's tile in question, the shots will hit the table instead.

So many people still hug their cover, not realizing that they are negating it by standing directly on it.
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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by TopHatPenguin » 11 Jan 2017, 23:21

Renomaki wrote:You should also update the fact how firing from behind a table/barricade won't protect you unless you are a tile BEHIND the cover in question.

I discovered that players standing directly on the tile of a flipped table can still be hit with bullets/spits, whereas if you stand behind the table's tile in question, the shots will hit the table instead.

So many people still hug their cover, not realizing that they are negating it by standing directly on it.
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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by Karmac » 12 Jan 2017, 06:34

If you feel its worth mentioning you could note diagonal shooting, such as shooting between two diagonally placed girders. Most people complain about spitters doing this, yet forget marines can use it as a trick too.
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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by TopHatPenguin » 12 Jan 2017, 08:03

Carmac wrote:If you feel its worth mentioning you could note diagonal shooting, such as shooting between two diagonally placed girders. Most people complain about spitters doing this, yet forget marines can use it as a trick too.

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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by Karmac » 12 Jan 2017, 08:13

Don't judge me I'm dyslecix
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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by Eenkogneeto » 12 Jan 2017, 16:30

Advanced Tactic: You can buckshot a runner when they pounce a marine, but only if you do it /very/ fast. The window gets bigger the older the runner.
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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by TopHatPenguin » 12 Jan 2017, 21:27

Eenkogneeto wrote:Advanced Tactic: You can buckshot a runner when they pounce a marine, but only if you do it /very/ fast. The window gets bigger the older the runner.
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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by nerocavalier » 12 Jan 2017, 22:31

TopHatPenguin wrote:I was hesitant to add it in the beginning about shooting runners which have pounced marines because it could lead to more FF due to the short amount of time.
I'd say throw it in, anyway, and have a little faith in your fellow marines.

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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by Eenkogneeto » 12 Jan 2017, 22:33

Maybe consider a part about shooting through diagonals? Get a MT/CE to build you two walls in the firing range so shoot diagonally through, a picture of what you see and a picture of what is on the other side with the firing lines drawn through the wall.
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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by Biolock » 13 Jan 2017, 01:57

Excellent guide, easy to follow. Perhaps you could add a section about shooting something that is downed, resting, or sleeping and how the bullet mechanics change for that target.

Also, I'd be amiss if I didn't address, as your friendly neighborhood medic, that I personally aim for the groin. Yes, there is /less/ armor on the marine's groin than on his chest, HOWEVER; if you DO hit their groin and you DO break something, it has a far less likely chance of killing them than a broken chest. In fact, a marine, so long as they can withstand the pain, and don't bleed out, can continue fighting with an un-splinted, broken groin. Where as if you try to do the same with a broken chest, it's a death sentence every time. Also, the miss % is negligible when targetting the groin vs. chest.
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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by TopHatPenguin » 13 Jan 2017, 05:13

Eenkogneeto wrote:Maybe consider a part about shooting through diagonals? Get a MT/CE to build you two walls in the firing range so shoot diagonally through, a picture of what you see and a picture of what is on the other side with the firing lines drawn through the wall.
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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by Lokiki_01 » 13 Jan 2017, 06:35

Biolock wrote:HOWEVER; if you DO hit their groin and you DO break something, it has a far less likely chance of killing them than a broken chest.
Bio, it's still a death sentence to fight unsplinted, broken groin deals damage to liver, and liver deals a lot of tox damage. But in a short term - yea, broken groin is better.
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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by Simo94 » 23 Jan 2017, 01:31

add clicking behind the hunter and not at them with M4 if they are pouncing a marine as it reduces the chance of FFing the pounced marine
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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by TheMusician321 » 23 Jan 2017, 14:08

Simo94 wrote:add clicking behind the hunter and not at them with M4 if they are pouncing a marine as it reduces the chance of FFing the pounced marine
^ this

I ff'd so. many. people. this way, granted I was using double RDS smgs but clicking on young hunter 69 would just hit the guy below him instead of the hunter itself.
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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by TopHatPenguin » 23 Jan 2017, 14:30

Simo94 wrote:add clicking behind the hunter and not at them with M4 if they are pouncing a marine as it reduces the chance of FFing the pounced marine
TheMusician321 wrote:^ this

I ff'd so. many. people. this way, granted I was using double RDS smgs but clicking on young hunter 69 would just hit the guy below him instead of the hunter itself.
First useful tip covers that, I'll add it into the description of the gif to point it out abit more.

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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by TopHatPenguin » 25 Jan 2017, 17:38

Apologies for the delay on diagonal shooting, been struggling/forgetting during a round to get a picture for it. Hopefully by tomorrow it should be done and updated. Along with some potential flamethrower additional info for when using it.

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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by Caryl » 25 Jan 2017, 21:04

This is such a Top-Kek guide. Beautifully detailed and demonstrated. Well done, Wooks!

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Re: A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]

Post by TopHatPenguin » 26 Jan 2017, 13:25

Updated - 26/01/2017

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