Thoughts on Queen changes

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Re: Thoughts on Queen changes

Post by jalen earl » 09 Jan 2018, 22:33

Renomaki wrote:
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. Plus, now that you have the ability to PUNISH xenos, they'll be more willing to listen to you!

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Re: Thoughts on Queen changes

Post by Reuben Owen » 10 Jan 2018, 10:06

One rare but super boned situation could happen where the hive gets no drones during the early evolve rush. Because Drones are like 3x more neccesary than they were (and I have in general seen an increase in them so far per round since the update) I don't know if the Queen can turn t1s back into larva, but if she can't she'd have to detach at least for a bit to actually move her own laid eggs around and... well... that round doesn't seem like it'll be a xeno vcitory.
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Re: Thoughts on Queen changes

Post by Jeser » 10 Jan 2018, 12:29

Reuben Owen wrote:
10 Jan 2018, 10:06
One rare but super boned situation could happen where the hive gets no drones during the early evolve rush. Because Drones are like 3x more neccesary than they were (and I have in general seen an increase in them so far per round since the update) I don't know if the Queen can turn t1s back into larva, but if she can't she'd have to detach at least for a bit to actually move her own laid eggs around and... well... that round doesn't seem like it'll be a xeno vcitory.
Well, you know, when aliens are stupid enough to not get a least one drone roundstart, they often tend to lose, before and after update.
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Re: Thoughts on Queen changes

Post by Jroinc1 » 10 Jan 2018, 12:49

This one seems interesting.

Ayys have to trade getting a powerful centralizing influence, some global effects, and basically getting a xeno AI that can directly influence the hive with the NECESSITY of having a fixed base (yes, it can move, but not easily).
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Re: Thoughts on Queen changes

Post by Reuben Owen » 10 Jan 2018, 15:32

Jeser wrote:
10 Jan 2018, 12:29
Well, you know, when aliens are stupid enough to not get a least one drone roundstart, they often tend to lose, before and after update.
This is true. But at least before the Queen could technically do everything a Drone could and it wouldn't deteriorate the hive TOO much. Because she'd spam ask hatched larva later to do it.

Also I'm starting to think that new people who try Queen, when they finally detach, are more likely to get boned, if the hive is losing. Mostly because they're already starting in a desperate situation with a caste they have no experience w/. But I see no workaround for that.
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Re: Thoughts on Queen changes

Post by jalen earl » 10 Jan 2018, 15:33

Jeser wrote:
10 Jan 2018, 12:29
Well, you know, when aliens are stupid enough to not get a least one drone roundstart, they often tend to lose, before and after update.
Hey if it forces an end to rounds where i end up with 9 runners and a sentinel im all for it
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Re: Thoughts on Queen changes

Post by GoliathTheDespoiler » 10 Jan 2018, 21:32

I personally adore this update aesthetically and gameplay wise.

I've wanted this ever since I joined CM and its FINALLY HERE! :D

However, this update has made the danger of griefing queens much more prevalent, as they could devolve T3s at will, never egg sack, etc.

Of course staff will prevent this, but its a new risk for abuse by dickish players.
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Re: Thoughts on Queen changes

Post by Dumblike » 11 Jan 2018, 08:13

next time I get de-volved by a dumb Queen I grief

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but de-volving is totally retarded, it means getting your hive a step back. but boy I love de-volving these 8 spitters that all go prae
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Re: Thoughts on Queen changes

Post by x31stOverlord » 11 Jan 2018, 09:35

I mean. Both sides of the coin

Queen troll devolving the Ayys is a problem.

But if the Queen specifically commanded the Ayys ask for her permission before evolving and they do so anyway? HIT DAT BUTTON.

But yes. Serious observation of Ayys Queen needs to occur should they be abusing the ability.
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Re: Thoughts on Queen changes

Post by Cry of Wolves » 11 Jan 2018, 12:17

x31stOverlord wrote:
11 Jan 2018, 09:35
I mean. Both sides of the coin

Queen troll devolving the Ayys is a problem.

But if the Queen specifically commanded the Ayys ask for her permission before evolving and they do so anyway? HIT DAT BUTTON.

But yes. Serious observation of Ayys Queen needs to occur should they be abusing the ability.
If a queen is abusing her powers, just send an ahelp or make a player report. There may not be a whitelist, but there certainly is a blacklist for queens.

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Re: Thoughts on Queen changes

Post by GoliathTheDespoiler » 11 Jan 2018, 16:40

Cry of Wolves wrote:
11 Jan 2018, 12:17
If a queen is abusing her powers, just send an ahelp or make a player report. There may not be a whitelist, but there certainly is a blacklist for queens.
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Re: Thoughts on Queen changes

Post by Mvp777 » 02 Mar 2018, 09:56

Queens being able to Ovi makes them go from "Big combat alien that just happens to lay eggs" to Matriach and Overmind of a Xenomorph hive.
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Re: Thoughts on Queen changes

Post by AverageSpitter » 02 Mar 2018, 13:25

Honestly? I like that they added the explosive stun immunity to the queen, i mean, It was stupid easy to get a queen with Nade spam, and that makes the queen as menacing as she should be, Even if it promotes fuckheads going combat queen and not letting their hive evolve, These changes are not a big deal if the queen is bald, which happens more often than you think
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