The Ancient Spitter meme

Ultimate badasses.
Post Reply
caleeb101
Registered user
Posts: 393
Joined: 26 Nov 2016, 06:04
Byond: Caleboz45

The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by caleeb101 » 15 May 2018, 13:34

Although I'd love to salt about the Ancient spitter, I have a genuine question.

Why is spitter evolution shorter than Hunter evolution? I've seen so many Ancient spitters lately and it's very salt inducing to be stunned and unable to do jackshit for a long period of time as you watch others get stunned and not be able to do jackshit for a long period of time while the creature that stuns others disallowing them to do jackshit for a long period of time is able to run/move at mach speed too.
Frank Jensen/Al 'Varez' Suarez

User avatar
Butlerblock
Registered user
Posts: 121
Joined: 02 Jul 2017, 21:45
Byond: Butlerblock

Re: The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by Butlerblock » 15 May 2018, 13:37

It’s only 250 ticks shorter. Evolving to young to mature as hunter takes 500, while spitter only takes 250. It’s not “that” much shorter time wise, only about 8 or so minutes difference.

User avatar
Loco52
Registered user
Posts: 111
Joined: 08 Apr 2018, 00:41
Byond: Loco52

Re: The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by Loco52 » 16 May 2018, 12:31

Not just that, we all agree that Ancient Spitter is really good... but it's supposed to do. It's ancient afterall, and reaching ancient spitter is very very hard unless you hide through the whole round until you age, also, spitter has a HUGE setback which is its plasma storage... they have to spit from weeds or near weeds because plasma depletes hellafast and you have to constantly back to regain it AND rng is shit, so it's got its pros and cons but I get what you mean, from a marines' perspective ancient spitter looks like an easy and op role but it's really hard.

User avatar
xXen0zS1ay3rXx
Registered user
Posts: 34
Joined: 18 Apr 2018, 01:05

Re: The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by xXen0zS1ay3rXx » 16 May 2018, 19:29

It takes like what, 3 extra shots to kill it at ancient? Stop being bad and dodge the slowmoving green balls(or don't they stun for like .5 sec), and ignore the tiny damage the acid balls do.

Spitters are easy frags, just run up and them and blap

caleeb101
Registered user
Posts: 393
Joined: 26 Nov 2016, 06:04
Byond: Caleboz45

Re: The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by caleeb101 » 17 May 2018, 12:20

xXen0zS1ay3rXx wrote:
16 May 2018, 19:29
It takes like what, 3 extra shots to kill it at ancient? Stop being bad and dodge the slowmoving green balls(or don't they stun for like .5 sec), and ignore the tiny damage the acid balls do.

Spitters are easy frags, just run up and them and blap
your comment is a fat meme
Frank Jensen/Al 'Varez' Suarez

User avatar
Lukey111
Registered user
Posts: 346
Joined: 07 Nov 2017, 21:22
Location: Salt piles
Byond: Lukey111

Re: The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by Lukey111 » 17 May 2018, 12:22

ancient spitter memes are the best
I play as Monday "Scatter" Williams, he is the guy that takes no one seriously, except his good friend, his work.
Image Image
"I'm in engineering most of the time, I like leading the nerds" - Monday 'Scatter' Williams
"There’s no such thing as a crowded battlefield. Battlefields are lonely places." —General Alfred M. Gray, 29th CMC

TrollerNoob
Registered user
Posts: 25
Joined: 09 Nov 2017, 16:04
Byond: TrollerNoob

Re: The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by TrollerNoob » 17 May 2018, 13:21

I will call down an OB just to kill an ancient spitter. Their plasma storage doesnt deplete that fast when they're spitting neurotoxin like an auto sentry. It's not hard to be an ancient spitter at all, it is easy and op..

Death to all neurotoxin spamming spitters
Image Image
Image
The fabled W E E B
Masamune 'Nippon' Sanada

User avatar
Loco52
Registered user
Posts: 111
Joined: 08 Apr 2018, 00:41
Byond: Loco52

Re: The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by Loco52 » 17 May 2018, 15:51

TrollerNoob wrote:
17 May 2018, 13:21
I will call down an OB just to kill an ancient spitter. Their plasma storage doesnt deplete that fast when they're spitting neurotoxin like an auto sentry. It's not hard to be an ancient spitter at all, it is easy and op..

Death to all neurotoxin spamming spitters
You don't choose to be an ancient spitter, you become one over time bruh. If you played a good game and survived all the OBs and CASes and longspitters and flamers you deserve to be an ancient spitter. And yeh it depletes very fast

User avatar
BladeBr
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 536
Joined: 12 Jun 2017, 14:09
Byond: blade2000br

Re: The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by BladeBr » 18 May 2018, 05:07

Loco52 wrote:
17 May 2018, 15:51
You don't choose to be an ancient spitter, you become one over time bruh. If you played a good game and survived all the OBs and CASes and longspitters and flamers you deserve to be an ancient spitter. And yeh it depletes very fast
Ciuld have done a meme of "you don't choose the ancient spitter, the ancient spitter choses you"

And yeah, ancient spitterd is the bane of sny msrine's existence.
Jason 'Punk' Crowmel - The guy that don't give a shit about what he does.

Former Rapey Ravager Hater.

User avatar
Sulaboy
Registered user
Posts: 349
Joined: 14 Jan 2018, 04:10
Location: Florida
Byond: Sulaboy
Steam: Danger

Re: The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by Sulaboy » 18 May 2018, 10:02

BladeBr wrote:
18 May 2018, 05:07
Ciuld have done a meme of "you don't choose the ancient spitter, the ancient spitter choses you"

And yeah, ancient spitterd is the bane of sny msrine's existence.
Image
Best I could do on mobile.

Also playing ancient spitter is fun, I've stunned most of a squad while a carrier just put face huggers on them.
Clancy 'Danger' Long
My Dossier
viewtopic.php?f=91&t=16817&p=189980#p189980
A̸̧̭̰̮̰̜̥͈̱̲̫̲̭͋̄̈̍̉̓̿̊̃H̸͈̬̗̓̄̒̇̿̀̏̎͑͊̇̃̇͝Ĥ̴̨̧̨̩̞̗̤͝ͅH̴͔͕͊̄̓̐̀͝

TrollerNoob
Registered user
Posts: 25
Joined: 09 Nov 2017, 16:04
Byond: TrollerNoob

Re: The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by TrollerNoob » 18 May 2018, 13:19

Loco52 wrote:
17 May 2018, 15:51
You don't choose to be an ancient spitter, you become one over time bruh. If you played a good game and survived all the OBs and CASes and longspitters and flamers you deserve to be an ancient spitter. And yeh it depletes very fast
It doesn't deplete very fast. Have you not seen an Ancient Spitter spam neurotoxin? The plasma meter gradually trickled down at a slow rate. And it's not hard to avoid death as a beno, while actively fighting.
Image Image
Image
The fabled W E E B
Masamune 'Nippon' Sanada

caleeb101
Registered user
Posts: 393
Joined: 26 Nov 2016, 06:04
Byond: Caleboz45

Re: The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by caleeb101 » 18 May 2018, 15:53

I just think spitter should be 500 as well. Unless there's a good reason for it being 250... it's arguably stronger than a hunter and if I really wanted to survive in a round as a T2 I'd be a spitter over a Hunter any day.

If it's to do with evo times well evo times and upgrade times are seperate now. So just increase the Evolve time on Sentinels or the Upgrade time on spitters or both if you want to be a regular CM dev.
Frank Jensen/Al 'Varez' Suarez

User avatar
Loco52
Registered user
Posts: 111
Joined: 08 Apr 2018, 00:41
Byond: Loco52

Re: The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by Loco52 » 18 May 2018, 21:00

TrollerNoob wrote:
18 May 2018, 13:19
It doesn't deplete very fast. Have you not seen an Ancient Spitter spam neurotoxin? The plasma meter gradually trickled down at a slow rate. And it's not hard to avoid death as a beno, while actively fighting.
I play xeno every time, I haven-t seen an ancient spitter spam neurotoxin i have been one.

Marine mains complains are so dumm, what Ive heard so far is

Ancient Runners are too fast (yeah, not like the goal of a runner is to be fast and ancient is actually like the peak of runnership)
Ancient Spitters spit delay is practically 0 (yeah not like spitters are supposed to have a good spit speed delay after waiting 100, 200, 250, 800, 1600 ticks respectively and actively fightng marines to achieve that. Nope, you just spawn as larva and pick ancient spitter from the xeno list.)
Crushers have a lot of health (dude....)

Next complaints waiting in line:
Dude, ravs survive fire
Why can drones combat hug?
Omg larvae can pin marines into nest wtf op
It's just so damn hard to escape alien nest (i actually heard someone say this but I tried my best to ignore them)

caleeb101
Registered user
Posts: 393
Joined: 26 Nov 2016, 06:04
Byond: Caleboz45

Re: The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by caleeb101 » 19 May 2018, 09:02

Loco52 wrote:
18 May 2018, 21:00
I play xeno every time, I haven-t seen an ancient spitter spam neurotoxin i have been one.

Marine mains complains are so dumm, what Ive heard so far is

Ancient Runners are too fast (yeah, not like the goal of a runner is to be fast and ancient is actually like the peak of runnership)
Ancient Spitters spit delay is practically 0 (yeah not like spitters are supposed to have a good spit speed delay after waiting 100, 200, 250, 800, 1600 ticks respectively and actively fightng marines to achieve that. Nope, you just spawn as larva and pick ancient spitter from the xeno list.)
Crushers have a lot of health (dude....)

Next complaints waiting in line:
Dude, ravs survive fire
Why can drones combat hug?
Omg larvae can pin marines into nest wtf op
It's just so damn hard to escape alien nest (i actually heard someone say this but I tried my best to ignore them)
You're clearly a biased xeno player. And if you haven't seen Ancient spitter Neurotoxin spam, you haven't seen/played an ancient spitter or you were a terrible Ancient Spitter. That's fact. I'd also expect you to know that it's not the most difficult thing to hide away/be more cautious during combat as xeno so you can reach higher levels of maturity. You're acting like every second of the round there's a bullet flying over your head. The Queen manages to do it every round and marines target her more than any other xeno.

The only people complaining about those "dumb" things you brought up would be new marine biased players. Anyone could say the same about new xeno biased players. I've heard xenos mains complain about grenades, flamethrowers, CAS/OB not being "obvious enough". Of course none of these opinions are the best opinions in the world, they're from new/salty players.

This thread was for a genuine question as to why Spitter evolution is shorter than Hunter evolution. There still hasn't been a viable answer to the question.

tl;dr I'm not trying to start another XENO OP REEEEEEEEEEE MARINE OP REEEEEEEEEEEEEE argument between clearly biased players with opinions that only favour one side.
Frank Jensen/Al 'Varez' Suarez

User avatar
Royal Griffon
Registered user
Posts: 161
Joined: 30 Mar 2018, 16:57

Re: The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by Royal Griffon » 19 May 2018, 11:52

I go ancient spitter when marines have stressed me out, or I go ancient hunter.
Usually ancient spitter though, and usually I just target Delta and leave the other squads alone until Delta is dead
It's relaxing
Ssgt Mikey 'Snatch' Anders: HEINZ WE MADE THE WAFFEN SS
Elite Hunter (488): QUEEN HELP I'M SCARED" Scurries about the escape pod locked inside
PFC Mikey 'Snatch' Anders: GLORY TO THE REVOLUTION COMRADES, DA? moments before defecting to the UPP as a traitor to the USCM

User avatar
Loco52
Registered user
Posts: 111
Joined: 08 Apr 2018, 00:41
Byond: Loco52

Re: The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by Loco52 » 19 May 2018, 14:14

caleeb101 wrote:
19 May 2018, 09:02
You're clearly a biased xeno player. And if you haven't seen Ancient spitter Neurotoxin spam, you haven't seen/played an ancient spitter or you were a terrible Ancient Spitter. That's fact. I'd also expect you to know that it's not the most difficult thing to hide away/be more cautious during combat as xeno so you can reach higher levels of maturity. You're acting like every second of the round there's a bullet flying over your head. The Queen manages to do it every round and marines target her more than any other xeno.

The only people complaining about those "dumb" things you brought up would be new marine biased players. Anyone could say the same about new xeno biased players. I've heard xenos mains complain about grenades, flamethrowers, CAS/OB not being "obvious enough". Of course none of these opinions are the best opinions in the world, they're from new/salty players.

This thread was for a genuine question as to why Spitter evolution is shorter than Hunter evolution. There still hasn't been a viable answer to the question.

tl;dr I'm not trying to start another XENO OP REEEEEEEEEEE MARINE OP REEEEEEEEEEEEEE argument between clearly biased players with opinions that only favour one side.
Biased xeno player, does that even exist? Sorry, I don't put any effort in defending with my life a side in 2d spessmen lol. I argument on what i've seen and played, and my conclusion based on that is: salty marine mains like you love to complain about everything they can't kill with a single shotgun slug and that clearly can't be changed.

caleeb101
Registered user
Posts: 393
Joined: 26 Nov 2016, 06:04
Byond: Caleboz45

Re: The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by caleeb101 » 19 May 2018, 15:42

Loco52 wrote:
19 May 2018, 14:14
Biased xeno player, does that even exist? Sorry, I don't put any effort in defending with my life a side in 2d spessmen lol. I argument on what i've seen and played, and my conclusion based on that is: salty marine mains like you love to complain about everything they can't kill with a single shotgun slug and that clearly can't be changed.
biased xeno player = xeno main

and what I'm saying is what you've played clearly isn't the opinion from playing on both sides but rather from 1 side. And no I'm not attacking your life in side 2d spessmen. I'm not saying xenos should die to a single slug either, that's way out of proportion.
Frank Jensen/Al 'Varez' Suarez

User avatar
Loco52
Registered user
Posts: 111
Joined: 08 Apr 2018, 00:41
Byond: Loco52

Re: The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by Loco52 » 19 May 2018, 21:38

That's very different from being a xeno main, but I get what you mean. The thing is I have, and I also know how annoying Ancient Spitters are as a marine but I also know that they're fairly killable while playing as one. That's about it.

User avatar
Sulaboy
Registered user
Posts: 349
Joined: 14 Jan 2018, 04:10
Location: Florida
Byond: Sulaboy
Steam: Danger

Re: The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by Sulaboy » 19 May 2018, 22:29

Loco52 wrote:
19 May 2018, 21:38
That's very different from being a xeno main, but I get what you mean. The thing is I have, and I also know how annoying Ancient Spitters are as a marine but I also know that they're fairly killable while playing as one. That's about it.
I think by biased Xeno he means a Xeno who hasn't been in the shoes of a marine. If you don't know what the other side is like it'll be difficult to know their strengths and weaknesses. Playing only a marine could give you the notion that Xenos are overpowered, but after playing on the Xeno side you can see the areas where they fall short. It's the same in reverse playing as Xeno while playing as marine often gives you insight into how you can beat them.

Ancient spitters can be difficult to kill if they position well and can fall back, they're a force to be reckoned with but can be beaten.
Clancy 'Danger' Long
My Dossier
viewtopic.php?f=91&t=16817&p=189980#p189980
A̸̧̭̰̮̰̜̥͈̱̲̫̲̭͋̄̈̍̉̓̿̊̃H̸͈̬̗̓̄̒̇̿̀̏̎͑͊̇̃̇͝Ĥ̴̨̧̨̩̞̗̤͝ͅH̴͔͕͊̄̓̐̀͝

User avatar
Loco52
Registered user
Posts: 111
Joined: 08 Apr 2018, 00:41
Byond: Loco52

Re: The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by Loco52 » 20 May 2018, 19:43

Sulaboy wrote:
19 May 2018, 22:29
I think by biased Xeno he means a Xeno who hasn't been in the shoes of a marine. If you don't know what the other side is like it'll be difficult to know their strengths and weaknesses. Playing only a marine could give you the notion that Xenos are overpowered, but after playing on the Xeno side you can see the areas where they fall short. It's the same in reverse playing as Xeno while playing as marine often gives you insight into how you can beat them.

Ancient spitters can be difficult to kill if they position well and can fall back, they're a force to be reckoned with but can be beaten.
Yeh I got what he meant, that's why I told him i'm answering from both points on view, and I also fully agree on what you said: they're a force to be reckoned with (hence why it isn't really that easy to reach ancient unless you are good at it or hide from the battle the entire round) but can be beaten (which is why they don't need any nerf... nor be the main reason for marine salt every round)

TrollerNoob
Registered user
Posts: 25
Joined: 09 Nov 2017, 16:04
Byond: TrollerNoob

Re: The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by TrollerNoob » 21 May 2018, 13:22

Loco52 wrote:
20 May 2018, 19:43
Yeh I got what he meant, that's why I told him i'm answering from both points on view, and I also fully agree on what you said: they're a force to be reckoned with (hence why it isn't really that easy to reach ancient unless you are good at it or hide from the battle the entire round) but can be beaten (which is why they don't need any nerf... nor be the main reason for marine salt every round)
Just because they can be beaten doesn't mean they're perfectly fine. That logic is flawed in so many ways. You've clearly have never been a marine facing off against an ancient spitter, who can stunlock 3+ marines simultaneously. But anyways, back onto the main topic, now with the new caste updates, I don't see a reason as to why sentinels can evolve faster than runners.
Image Image
Image
The fabled W E E B
Masamune 'Nippon' Sanada

User avatar
Loco52
Registered user
Posts: 111
Joined: 08 Apr 2018, 00:41
Byond: Loco52

Re: The Ancient Spitter meme

Post by Loco52 » 21 May 2018, 15:50

TrollerNoob wrote:
21 May 2018, 13:22
Just because they can be beaten doesn't mean they're perfectly fine. That logic is flawed in so many ways. You've clearly have never been a marine facing off against an ancient spitter, who can stunlock 3+ marines simultaneously. But anyways, back onto the main topic, now with the new caste updates, I don't see a reason as to why sentinels can evolve faster than runners.
They have to evolve faster because of low demand, spitter T3s wouldn't be achieved if they had the same evolution ticks as hunter caste. NEVERTHELESS, I wouldn't mind raising evo point to 450.

Post Reply