Electric Ravager Boogaloo

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Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by Azmodan412 » 29 Jun 2016, 03:42

Bug Description: Ravagers can slash when they are incapacitated for some reason and not crit and ONLY ravagers.


Steps to reproduce:
1. Be person
2. Knock over Ravager with something like an explosion or a mine
3. Get decapitated when you move in to finish it.
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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by Toroic » 29 Jun 2016, 03:43

I think I was able to do this as a crusher today as well.
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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by Warlord » 29 Jun 2016, 05:26

Dank. its a feature.

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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by northcote4 » 29 Jun 2016, 05:36

I'd heard it might actually be a feature for ravagers, to support their charges getting them bonked. I could be wrong.
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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by coroneljones » 29 Jun 2016, 08:43

All xenos can do this,strangely
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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by forwardslashN » 29 Jun 2016, 11:54

Abby mentioned wanting to remove this at some point, so it's probably not a feature. It actually applies to hellhounds too.
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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by northcote4 » 29 Jun 2016, 12:07

Noize wrote:Abby mentioned wanting to remove this at some point, so it's probably not a feature. It actually applies to hellhounds too.
I know I'm probably being a right git with the wording and stuff, Noize, but wouldn't that kind of mean it was a feature that Abby just didn't want in the game anymore (lore, balance, whatever)?

I could just be being a total tosser and seeing things that aren't there, if so, ignore me.
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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by forwardslashN » 29 Jun 2016, 12:36

northcote4 wrote: I could just be being a total tosser and seeing things that aren't there, if so, ignore me.
It's not really about wanting a feature removed when it's never meant to be a feature. Humans can't interact with anything while they are on the ground. Aliens/whatever shouldn't either, but for some reason they do. That sort of unintended consequence is then ignored for a long time until people become accustomed enough to think it's actually intentional. When it's not, and it only exists because of poor implementation of some feature from ages ago. To give you an example, Gunz the Duel had all sorts of glitches and stuff that were later made into actual features. While that's sort of humorous to me, when it comes to SS13, leaving in unintended behavior only causes more issues in the future when someone else looks at the code and wonders why it even exists, when the answer is: "because I forgot to remove it, lol." And that is why you get run time errors and other unstable performance. Because people are lazy and don't fix their code up to standard.
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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by northcote4 » 29 Jun 2016, 13:09

Noize wrote:-snibbidy snip-
Fair enough, I was just reading it kind of as Abby saying 'This is a thing, but I think the game would be better without it', as opposed to 'This is a bug, let's remove it when we get the chance'.

So apparently I was just being a tosser. My bad.
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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by forwardslashN » 29 Jun 2016, 13:44

northcote4 wrote:So apparently I was just being a tosser. My bad.
No harm no foul. She actually said that when I slashed a praetorian to death while stunned as a hellhound. But more to the point, this isn't really intended and I'm not sure what's causing it. Probably missing a check somewhere...
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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by Azmodan412 » 29 Jun 2016, 17:30

Well, good thing I brought it up then!
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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by Sarah_U. » 01 Jul 2016, 19:29

I personally think it'd be nice as a feature, but I'd let marine that got shoved on the ground have it too and shorten the reach of harm intent to the tile right over you.
In short, make it so like the movies aliens downed can stab people and tail whip them, marines downed can take out their weapon and shoot people over them after a short delay.

I'll make it a suggestion before the code is removed.
CM was obviously inspired by Starcraft: Ghost opening. At least when marines takes too long to deploy.
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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by outordinary » 01 Jul 2016, 19:36

It makes sense to keep it in, sort of like an animal playing dead.

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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by Azmodan412 » 01 Jul 2016, 19:38

outordinary wrote:It makes sense to keep it in, sort of like an animal playing dead.
So when anything not a xeno gets knocked down and can't do shit, you want a xeno to be able to do shit when knocked flat on its ass? 10/10 logic. >.>
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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by outordinary » 01 Jul 2016, 19:42

Azmodan412 wrote: So when anything not a xeno gets knocked down and can't do shit, you want a xeno to be able to do shit when knocked flat on its ass? 10/10 logic. >.>
You twisting my words around man. 10/10 interpretation <.<

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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by Azmodan412 » 01 Jul 2016, 19:46

outordinary wrote: You twisting my words around man. 10/10 interpretation <.<
Copy-pasta'd from Noize's post:
It's not really about wanting a feature removed when it's never meant to be a feature. Humans can't interact with anything while they are on the ground. Aliens/whatever shouldn't either, but for some reason they do. That sort of unintended consequence is then ignored for a long time until people become accustomed enough to think it's actually intentional. When it's not, and it only exists because of poor implementation of some feature from ages ago. To give you an example, Gunz the Duel had all sorts of glitches and stuff that were later made into actual features. While that's sort of humorous to me, when it comes to SS13, leaving in unintended behavior only causes more issues in the future when someone else looks at the code and wonders why it even exists, when the answer is: "because I forgot to remove it, lol." And that is why you get run time errors and other unstable performance. Because people are lazy and don't fix their code up to standard.

Humans can't interact with anything while they are on the ground. Aliens/whatever shouldn't either, but for some reason they do.

Humans can't interact with anything while they are on the ground. Aliens/whatever shouldn't either, but for some reason they do.
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Tyler 'Thrift' Borealis: Slaughterer of stupid xenos, insane motherfucker, and who played tower defense with Predators with an axe.
Predator Duels Won: 1
Predator Duels Lost: 2

BRING IT ON CASANY! I DO NOT CAST DOWN A CHALLENGE!
43 Xenos and counting.

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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by Toroic » 01 Jul 2016, 21:27

The sooner this is removed the better.
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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by Sarah_U. » 01 Jul 2016, 23:55

Here's the suggestion I mentionned earlier.
http://colonial-marines.com/viewtopic.p ... 662#p82662
CM was obviously inspired by Starcraft: Ghost opening. At least when marines takes too long to deploy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4JSohL ... e=youtu.be
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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by Azmodan412 » 06 Jul 2016, 09:28

I'd like to bump this so it doesn't get buried.
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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by ParadoxSpace » 19 Aug 2016, 20:26

Bump again.

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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by MadSnailDisease » 04 Sep 2016, 22:45

Yup I'm on it.
Will be fixed soon.

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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by MadSnailDisease » 06 Sep 2016, 19:40

Coming back to this, I couldn't reproduce it after that first time, meaning I might have been wrong.

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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by TopHatPenguin » 06 Sep 2016, 23:01

MadSnailDisease wrote:Coming back to this, I couldn't reproduce it after that first time, meaning I might have been wrong.
Stun yourself on a mine with mobs around and while stunned as a ravager try and slash.
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Post by MadSnailDisease » 07 Sep 2016, 07:25

TopHatPenguin wrote: Stun yourself on a mine with mobs around and while stunned as a ravager try and slash.
That's exactly what I did and was unable to slash until I was standing up again.

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Re: Electric Ravager Boogaloo

Post by TopHatPenguin » 07 Sep 2016, 07:58

MadSnailDisease wrote: That's exactly what I did and was unable to slash until I was standing up again.
Huh, that's really rather odd.
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