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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by Rahlzel » 12 Jun 2018, 00:30

Since this is apparently confusing to some of you, I made this nice picture to more accurately portray which rules are being ignored and which rules will still be in effect on Wednesday.

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Re: General Rules Only Day

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Re: General Rules Only Day

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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by GoliathTheDespoiler » 12 Jun 2018, 06:59

DasCorncakes wrote:
11 Jun 2018, 08:58
He said only rules 0.1 0.2 and 0.3 apply



All of what you said is wrong, you can power game, metacomm, multikey, ERP, suicide whenever you want, MP's don't need to follow marine law as server rules either.

of course unless said otherwise or the rule is changed



Show me where in rule 0.1, 0.2 or 0.3 that it say's you have to follow marine laws as server rules. or do you not understand what was being said contextually?
He said includes, everything that preceeds "MARINE SPECIFIC RULES", I.E. rules 0.1 to 13, apply.
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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by Rahlzel » 12 Jun 2018, 12:56

Just so everyone's aware, it was discussed at length in Staff chat and the majority agreed to have the naming rule moved from Marine Rules to Roleplay Guidelines for the sake of Medium RP, so names like "Hitler" and "Taco Bell" won't be allowed. As of now, this will be the only rule change before Wednesday. I don't plan on changing anything else unless absolutely necessary.

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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by Bancrosexd » 12 Jun 2018, 13:10

Quick question if we remove all the rules. Are admins going to be looking even harder for reasons to ban or are you genuinely going to let us have fun with it?
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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by driecg36 » 12 Jun 2018, 13:19

Bancrosexd wrote:
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Quick question if we remove all the rules. Are admins going to be looking even harder for reasons to ban or are you genuinely going to let us have fun with it?
We're not removing all the rules, and we're not gonna hunt for reasons to ban. We are legitimately trying to ease up on some of the more specific, strict rules like ID and the like, but if you grief make no mistake we will bean the shit out of you.
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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by NethIafins » 12 Jun 2018, 15:04

Bancrosexd wrote:
12 Jun 2018, 13:10
Quick question if we remove all the rules. Are admins going to be looking even harder for reasons to ban or are you genuinely going to let us have fun with it?
Depends on your definition of fun. It is general rules only, not Purge round

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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by Cry of Wolves » 12 Jun 2018, 16:59

Note, this is not a purge round where you are free to greif at will. This is to ease off what might be unnecessary rules for marines and xenos. Do not look at this as a free pass for killing those you don't like. You will get banned for grief like any other day.

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Re: General Rules Only Day

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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by taketheshot56 » 12 Jun 2018, 18:17

Cry of Wolves wrote:
12 Jun 2018, 16:59
Note, this is not a purge round where you are free to greif at will. This is to ease off what might be unnecessary rules for marines and xenos. Do not look at this as a free pass for killing those you don't like. You will get banned for grief like any other day.
Now here's a question with most of the rules going, self antaging for liasons is one of them. Does that mean that should you encounter an.....uncooperative survivor from the colony. You as the CL could help him have an 'Accident'? And would that now fall under marine law rather than a CL Job ban and griefing ban.
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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by GoliathTheDespoiler » 12 Jun 2018, 18:22

taketheshot56 wrote:
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Now here's a question with most of the rules going, self antaging for liasons is one of them. Does that mean that should you encounter an.....uncooperative survivor from the colony. You as the CL could help him have an 'Accident'? And would that now fall under marine law rather than a CL Job ban and griefing ban.
I think with most self-generated antag stuff it's safe to ahelp before you pull it off, just so the admins know/agree with your idea and won't ping you for murdering a guy seemingly at random. FF logs aren't all that descriptive of the context.
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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by Heckenshutze » 12 Jun 2018, 18:22

taketheshot56 wrote:
12 Jun 2018, 18:17
Now here's a question with most of the rules going, self antaging for liasons is one of them. Does that mean that should you encounter an.....uncooperative survivor from the colony. You as the CL could help him have an 'Accident'? And would that now fall under marine law rather than a CL Job ban and griefing ban.
First example would be judged according to rule 0. Pretty sure all the holes will be fixed with that one
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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by Rahlzel » 12 Jun 2018, 18:30

taketheshot56 wrote:
12 Jun 2018, 18:17
Now here's a question with most of the rules going, self antaging for liasons is one of them. Does that mean that should you encounter an.....uncooperative survivor from the colony. You as the CL could help him have an 'Accident'? And would that now fall under marine law rather than a CL Job ban and griefing ban.
In my mind this is not griefing since the CL is technically an antag and the murder is an RP reason. The CL is still subject to Marine Law if he/she is caught, however. Other Admins might not see it this way, so you may want to Ahelp it just in case.

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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by taketheshot56 » 12 Jun 2018, 18:33

Rahlzel wrote:
12 Jun 2018, 18:30
In my mind this is not griefing since the CL is technically an antag and the murder is an RP reason. The CL is still subject to Marine Law if he/she is caught, however. Other Admins might not see it this way, so you may want to Ahelp it just in case.
I see, so whereas regular antag rules will be given to marines to prevent "CLF bombing cause my marine is a terrorist" The CL will be granted more leeway in the realms and reasons of Protecting the company from threats. But generally ahelp first?
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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by Rahlzel » 12 Jun 2018, 18:37

Griefing is defined as "without any roleplay reason". So long as Roleplay Guidelines and other General Rules are adhered to, the CL is more free to be like the asshole Carter Burke in the movie if they want. Going that route might mean a short round for them. That's up for the player to decide.

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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by trustscience44 » 13 Jun 2018, 00:46

I've read over the special day thing and was wondering if I would I be able to force my squad to follow me into the chapel, before briefing, where we all would start praying at the church? My squad would worship Grabthar as our deity and then I'd force them to stay listening or join-in as we do a squad reenactment of the battle for Grabthar's Hammer?

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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by x31stOverlord » 13 Jun 2018, 01:54

trustscience44 wrote:
13 Jun 2018, 00:46
I've read over the special day thing and was wondering if I would I be able to force my squad to follow me into the chapel, before briefing, where we all would start praying at the church? My squad would worship Grabthar as our deity and then I'd force them to stay listening or join-in as we do a squad reenactment of the battle for Grabthar's Hammer?
Roleplay guidelines are still in effect. Your squad doesn't have to listen to you either
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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by Steelpoint » 13 Jun 2018, 02:15

Putting aside the skill section, I see medics could attempt surgery.
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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by Surrealistik » 13 Jun 2018, 17:14

Medics could remove shrapnel/bullets and maybe fix fractures with that miraculous bonegel and IB with fix o veins, but that's about it.

Also, I think Peridaxon should permanently heal _minor_ organ damage in addition to its current organ damage suppressing properties: 5 units of damage or less. If the patient has more damage than this to the organ, it doesn't repair it at all.
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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by Helplesssheep » 13 Jun 2018, 20:47

I love the idea developers, it's good to see you guys actively trying to make the game better.
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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by spookydonut » 14 Jun 2018, 10:50

Helplesssheep wrote:
13 Jun 2018, 20:47
I love the idea developers, it's good to see you guys actively trying to make the game better.
Oh sorry we'll fix our mistakes and get back to making the game worse

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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by DankAnimemes » 14 Jun 2018, 11:27

spookydonut wrote:
14 Jun 2018, 10:50
Oh sorry we'll fix our mistakes and get back to making the game worse
Yeah you guys have not provided NEARLY enough marine nerfs lately.

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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by Surrealistik » 14 Jun 2018, 13:29

I think general rules day was a great success; we had much more flexibility without complete anarchy or Low RP.

Overall I think it made the point that CM has far too many rules and far too much micromanagement of play as is.
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Re: General Rules Only Day

Post by Symbiosis » 14 Jun 2018, 13:32

Surrealistik wrote:
14 Jun 2018, 13:29
I think general rules day was a great success; we had much more flexibility without complete anarchy or Low RP.

Overall I think it made the point that CM has far too many rules and far too much micromanagement of play as is.
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