Kep's Mod Application

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Kep's Mod Application

Post by Kep » 12 Jul 2017, 13:21

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Colonial Marines Character:
Alaina "Hotlips" May



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On average, how many hours are you available per week to moderate?
Free all summer; so as long as needed. When classes start up again then we will see (I'm a senior in College).

Do you have any previous experience in being staff (not just SS13)?
Admin in Gmod, Mount and Blade, helped run a server with a friend for a time.

Did you play any of the previous Colonial Marine servers?
I played a little at the start; including the Sulco.

What are the 3 biggest servers you play on besides CM?
Hippie Station, Paradise Station, Goon Station(s).

Provide links to any previous Colonial Marines applications that you've made:

Are you currently a staff member elsewhere (not just SS13)? If so, where?
Currently off duty admin for a Warband server called APPL Zombies. We tend to restart every other year; We have been down for a while now though.

Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on Colonial Marines?
Never, I'm a good boy I swear.

Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on ANY server? If so, which server, when, and what for?
Nope, never.

Are you familiar with the chat program Slack (its use is required)?
I heard of it, I'm not unfamiliar with the concept; our server on another game used TS and Discord.

Common Staff Situations:
Write a description of what you would do in each of the following situations. Do not write on the same line as the situation - use the space below it or make space as needed. Failure to do this proves your inability to follow instructions and your application will be automatically denied.

1. A player randomly shoots someone at round start and MPs have detained him.
Stay in character and hit them with the space law; LOOC if new to the game and ask In character if it was a accidental discharge. Either or; Space law kicks in and a explanation is given.

2. The ship has a breach to space and a bunch of players have died or are dying as a result.
If said breach occurred before being boarded or being the result of grief or incompetence; then seal the breach and revive unfairly killed marines. If due to reasonable reason then RP a emergancy declaring all crew to obtain breathers and tanks if they can and declare the breach zone off-limits.

3. You see a player walking around the ship naked and clearly lost.
Message them asking if they are new; if so tell them where to go (meals then prep). Show up in character and berate them for being out of uniform and inform them that way for bonus points.

4. A player is being very rude to you in Adminhelps and requesting to speak to an Admin+ staff member.
Pass along if possible; ignore if they continue to be rude. Take action if a obvious troll.

5. You notice a player with a name that doesn't fit our naming rules. The player is arguing that: They've used the name for several years, no one has told them to change it before, and that they didn't know it was a rule.
They should have read the rules in the first place; alter it but keep the same essence if you wish.

6. You see a Maintenance Tech running around in armor and carrying a rifle. The security level is green with no threat present.
Call MPs to dispense space law; send PM to tell why they are in trouble and ask if new.

7. You see a Squad Medic performing surgery on the planet. He claims it was because there were no doctors in the FOB.
PM stating you do not know surgery as you are only a grunt, all wounded needing surgery must be evaced to the ship so that those whose character knows how to do surgery can do their jobs.

8. The round is stagnating. There are 30 marines and 4 aliens. The marines won't leave the ship, and the aliens won't attack. What would you do, to "encourage" the sides to engage each other?
Special character giving a rousing prep talk to instill pride in the marine corps and or chide them for being cowards. Get a bioscan for effect and lead a glorious charge to end the threat once and for all! Alternatively; tell the aliens they know no fear and take that sky hive as the Queen mother.

9. The round ends, a MARINE starts shooting a hostile IRON BEAR and the IRON BEAR Adminhelps complaining he was killed after the round ended.
What happens in round end stays in round end; the game is ending and if you are sore about being killed when it was going to end anyway that you have some problems.

10. A marine is running around disarming, punching and stealing gear at round start.
Call and let MPs do their job; Space law must be enforced. If baldie assume newbie and explain via PM. If just a troll kick.

11. A marine has killed another marine. When you ask him why, he said it was because the other marine had punched him.
MPs dispense Spess law, charge for murder and let the MPs do their job. If Ahelp or OOC complains, PM.

12. An issue arises that requires Admin+ abilities.
Notify someone who has those abilities ASAP and tell people the situation.

13. There are minor racist comments going on IC. 9 of the 10 people are laughing and RPing but one player gets offended and Adminhelps about it.
The internet is a harsh place; I personally would not go full draconian speech control based on one complaint.

14. A marine opens fire at round start in briefing killing multiple marines and instantly logs off.
Revive dead marines killed by the troll; obtain his Byond ID if possible and pass on to Admins for proper punishment.

15. You see a player playing a xeno larva/chestburster run towards the frontlines and die.
If possible; kick them and job ban them from Xeno for the round; if repeat offender pass on to Admins for proper punishment.

16. You see a xeno memeing, saying AYYLMAO, REEEEEE etc in hivemind chat.
Largely the same as 13. I see alot of memeing in CM and I largely don't mind it and seemingly neither does the staff. As long as it isn't overwhelming memery.

17. A xeno player calls the shuttle a "dropship". A different xeno player complains to you that it's metagaming/failRP to call it a "dropship".
PM them telling them that they are a Xeno and have never seen a DS before; when playing as a different species it is proper to try to describe it in familiar terms to that species i.e metal bird/small sky hive.

18. A Command staff player at briefing near round-start mentions there are aliens on the planet.
PM telling them to read the rules and the starting header; at round start marines are not aware what has occurred at the planet.

19. A Marine kills another Marine on the EVAC Pod to take the last spot and claims it was RP as he was saving himself.
Troll, kick and revive dead marine unless the RP situation was sufficient to justify it (i.e other player attempting to shut and close the pod for himself.)

20. You see a fellow staff member give wrong information in an Adminhelp or incorrectly enforcing a rule.
Inform them of the mistake, simple as that. If still insists report to a higher authority.

20a. You see a fellow staff member abusing his powers in-game.
Create a report here on the forums about the abuse of power.

21. You see a player talking in OOC chat about what he did with your mom last night.
Its the internet; if they insist on continuing to troll then kick after a warning.

Any additional information you'd like to add?
I have prior admin experience (but not in SS13). I have learned a lot from this server and continue to do so. I have tried virtually every job (including a stent as XO) and have mastered a few. I think I can be a valuable edition to the team if given a chance. Also don't let join date fool you, I've been apart of the community for a while now.

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Re: Kep's Mod Application

Post by Kavrick » 12 Jul 2017, 13:35

A couple of things, firstly, i dont think referring to players who break rules as "trolls" is good, simply because firstly, it's not very professional, but secondly, it's rather vague, saying that you'll punish someone if they're a troll isn't really clear. Also, kicking isn't a think in SS13, or at least on our server. Aliens can pretty much use whatever words they want, they dont have to say "Metal bird" or anything of the like, as the in game text is a translation of how aliens communicate into english, so that fact, using "metal bird" actually makes less sense.
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Re: Kep's Mod Application

Post by TheSpoonyCroy » 12 Jul 2017, 13:42

I'll write a full report as an edit but just to avoid any "You are new comments" The player did start playing the game as of May 4 2016 but played very infrequently in the year of 2016 but their activity has really picked up since May 24 2017 to now.
  • For question 1, I view punishment of OOC and IC nature are different. MPs are to deal with the IC ramifications of the situation while we deal with the out of character ones. So pming the player to ask why they shot someone to make sure it was for valid reasons since if there wasn't a valid reason it would be a violation of marine rule 1:

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    Lethal Force - Do not physically attack any other human without a legitimate, explainable, roleplay reason that could be applied in a similar, real-life scenario. Even if you are justified, you are still susceptible to Marine Law. 
    . Misfires are fine by the way but there might be RP punishments for the player.
  • For question 2, ahhh again an intriguing approach but the Ally doesn't have much internals, so breaches will mostly be sealed by us unless caused by a mechanic ie Dropshop and Predbomb (which are rare)
  • For question 3, this is fine
  • For question 4, this is an ok response but going more in detail might be nice
  • For question 5, mods don't have ability to change names sadly but is there anything else you would do with this player in particular?
  • For question 6, that is fine
  • For question 7, again it seems you missing a part of the procedure that is described in the public staff protocol, which you were expected to read which can be found here: viewtopic.php?f=57&t=5647 . The part I'm talking about is really the punishment of the player and what would you do in this case.
  • For question 8, well they are all quite intriguing approaches but 2/3 of them aren't possible for a mod to do and the last one is fine
  • For question 9, normally I wouldn't say anything about this since you are technically correct but I feel for the wrong reasons since "the game is ending and if you are sore about being killed when it was going to end anyway that you have some problems.", gives off that you don't know that EoRG is a rule we have in place found in rule 7, yes it doesn't apply to antags as shown in this example but your response doesn't acknowledge its existence unless I'm making an incorrect assumption
  • For question 10, probably best to avoid terms like trolls and again not really following the procedure.
  • For question 11, this is an ooc matter and you are expected to deal with it. So how will you deal with it?
  • For question 12, this is fine.
  • For question 13, this is correct I guess but where do you draw the line? I can say most of the time we get called for an issue its generally due to " one complaint"
  • For question 14, you do know mods have the power to place bans?
  • For question 15, job bans are semi-permanent so you can't simply do it for the round and if you are kicking and jobbanning them for a round, that would just equate to a normal round ban which is just a 3 hour ban. Also mods can file jobbans.
  • For question 16, what would you define as overwhelming memery? Also this statement is incorrect: " seemingly neither does the staff." we try to call it out when we see it if its continuously an issue since we actually have something in xeno rule 1 that states "An occasional meme is fine, but spouting memes constantly or disrupting others with them is not allowed and you will be warned." but the fact is there are around 60+ people on server at a time, so its pretty hard to spot this stuff since its a lot of white noise
  • For question 17, again xeno rule 1 actually state this quite clearly " It is fine to use words like "medbay" and "shuttle". You can also replace "shuttle" with "metal bird" if you wish. Hivemind is the English translation of a Xeno's thoughts.", we encourage xenos/players to keep the rp up since you make a very valid point but we aren't going to force them to do it.
  • For question 18, again will you punish the player for this?
  • For question 19, you could argue this scenario is set up to be very justifiable to act upon.
  • For question 20, this is fine
  • For question 21, this seems to be really overzealous for something so minor.
Honestly I'm a person who is for lenient mods and making things more into IC issues when they should be but you are a little too lenient but strict as well on some minor things. It doesn't seem you have read the public staff protocols or our rules recently since you are a bit wrong on a few places. Also I do agree with Kav's point on the usage of the term troll here. This application lacks a lot of the procedure that needs to be done in case, we deal with on a day to day basis. Honestly I get that you are more for high rp with how you answered many of these question, which isn't a bad thing and honestly I encourage it but we can't force our players do to the same. So -1 for the time being
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Re: Kep's Mod Application

Post by Emeraldblood » 12 Jul 2017, 14:21

There are some problems with some answers but I'll let Spoony's World Famous Questions™ bring those up. One concept that I think you don't fully understand yet is that you're mostly "The word of God" over "The hand of God", you don't really want to be telling the MP, "There is a problem over there, go clean it up." You also don't seem to look into the problems very deeply and just assess the overall title of them. A small example of this would be how in #19 you said that you'd kick someone and dismiss their side of the story under the assumption they're just griefing. For now, I'll have to say a personal -1.
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Re: Kep's Mod Application

Post by Karmac » 12 Jul 2017, 18:46

The app's a bit low-quality taking into consideration you say you've done this 'being staff for vidya gams' before, and the fact that you've done a very good job of making it look like you haven't even read our staff protocols isn't helping this. I'm 50% sure your desire to handle things IC'ly when every issue we deal with is an OOC problem stems from the fact you didn't read the protocols, but just keep in mind you have a rather skewed vision of what 'Moderators' do and how we work, and as a result it also makes this appeal less, well, less appealing. Going to -1 this for now.
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Re: Kep's Mod Application

Post by slc97 » 13 Jul 2017, 14:09

I'm going to have to go neutral on this for now. I appreciate the applicant's desire to leave things at an IC level; however some issues must be dealt with OOC. If Kep would like to respond to Spoony's suggestions and questions, then I could very well be swayed.

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Re: Kep's Mod Application

Post by TexasTwoStep » 16 Jul 2017, 19:55

Not a good grasp of the rules, lack of timely reply to Spoony shows a-lot, he put's hard work into going through the application, i'm a skimmer and it's disappointing to see his suggestions go unreplied in which something that takes fifteen minutes to fix, SLC can iron out those areas but the lack-of-dedication shows to the people you're applying to join that you really don't care. Also, your first post.

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Re: Kep's Mod Application

Post by Feweh » 20 Jul 2017, 13:48