Wanting to improve on overwatch.dm

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Wanting to improve on overwatch.dm

Post by St4ubz » 23 Oct 2017, 19:17

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How would you define yourself? (Coder, Mapper, Spriter): Software Developer

If Coder, what languages?
C++, Python are my strongest and most relevant here.

Any previous experience developing with SS13?
No

Proof of any previous or current work:
None relevant, to ss13.

How well do you know Git?
Part of my job.

Your primary job is server development, not policing the server. You may be given Moderator-level of access but you should *not* be invoking any administrative actions unless there are no moderators or Admins online. Do you understand? (Yes/No)
Yes

Anything else you'd like to add?

Wanting to improve on the Overwatch Console. Playing ss13 since maybe 2 weeks and really having a blast with CM, playing more SO recently which is a lot of fun but the Overwatch Console really bothers me, right now it's a chore to filter info out of it. Would like to improve on it, especially the squad monitor.

When building the list of the marines dead marines could be sorted to the bottom. The top information panel could have not only the total number of marines in your squad but also how many of those are still alive. Maybe some sorting toggles for example how far from the SL they are.
Lastly, which might be a balancing issue though, show the medical information of the marines in the overwatch console(Oxy/Tox/Fire/Brute Loss). It's already implemented for the crew monitor anyway. Maybe make that info toggable as it might crowd the UI. I stumbled over the leaked source code from a year ago when I looked for the CM source code. I checked it out and basically all this is doable with overwatch.dm and marines_consoles.dm (crew.dm seems decrepit). So if would basically just need limited access to that stuff.

Anyway this got much longer then I wanted to. Basically I just want to contribute some code.

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Re: Wanting to improve on overwatch.dm

Post by Feweh » 23 Oct 2017, 19:21

Who is your IC character? Name wise.

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Re: Wanting to improve on overwatch.dm

Post by St4ubz » 23 Oct 2017, 19:22

Joi Leach

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Re: Wanting to improve on overwatch.dm

Post by St4ubz » 24 Oct 2017, 09:33

I chatted for like 5 minutes with someone on Discord yesterday and they were concerned about my experience.
Just a bit more information about me as it seems needed.
I am a Software Developer got some years under my belt and right now I'm doing App development in swift and some web dev front- and backend(means whole plethora of web specific languages). By no means an expert on both. I studied computer science so yes I know what object oriented programming is and yes I also learned Java. I looked over tgstation code and the leaked CM code and I do think it is in my capabilities to handle that. I did not link any work because most is proprietary and I rather keep my real life and my hobby identity separate.

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Re: Wanting to improve on overwatch.dm

Post by apophis775 » 24 Oct 2017, 18:55

That was me you talked with.

I still have some concerns about your focus on Overwatch, as well as that you don't have any DM experience.
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Re: Wanting to improve on overwatch.dm

Post by St4ubz » 25 Oct 2017, 08:02

I can not guarantee that I will want to work on anything else then the overwatch console. I basically got an itch to make some improvements to that specific system, if there is other stuff that needs work or is planned I sure am open for it and if it interest me I'm happy to work on it.
I'm doing the staff application as it seems to be the only way to work on the code, not actually looking for a position or title just want to do a bit coding.

To my lack of dm experience. Just let me work on it and you can judge the work afterwards. If you like it you gain some nice new code, if you don't like it you can tell me and thats that.

Quick edit: Do not know your work cycle or procedures so am talking a bit out of my ass here saying just let me work on it... obv. its a bit more complicated then that.

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Re: Wanting to improve on overwatch.dm

Post by Feweh » 27 Oct 2017, 12:26

St4ubz wrote:
25 Oct 2017, 08:02
I can not guarantee that I will want to work on anything else then the overwatch console. I basically got an itch to make some improvements to that specific system, if there is other stuff that needs work or is planned I sure am open for it and if it interest me I'm happy to work on it.
I'm doing the staff application as it seems to be the only way to work on the code, not actually looking for a position or title just want to do a bit coding.

To my lack of dm experience. Just let me work on it and you can judge the work afterwards. If you like it you gain some nice new code, if you don't like it you can tell me and thats that.

Quick edit: Do not know your work cycle or procedures so am talking a bit out of my ass here saying just let me work on it... obv. its a bit more complicated then that.
No one responded to you, but since I know the answer to this I'll just tell you.

CM Dev isn't like other servers, it's essentially a close-knit team that works together and helps each-other.
Rarely and perhaps never has anyone just come on-board to make 1-2 changes and then left. Because it's so much more difficult to get on the CM Dev team, gain the trust of the other staff and learn CMs way of doing things... it's almost a waste of resources and time to bring people on for one time fixes.

Hope that clarifies the issue here.

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Re: Wanting to improve on overwatch.dm

Post by phil235 » 27 Oct 2017, 13:19

For what it's worth, I already implemented the ideas you presented here, except for the detailed health.

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Re: Wanting to improve on overwatch.dm

Post by St4ubz » 27 Oct 2017, 15:08

Ok thanks for the reply. I can understand were you are coming from.
As I said I can't promise I would stay on. But thank you for explaining it.


It's great to hear you did implement some of the changes already.
I'm hoping you will integrate detailed health soon too ;) In the end it's just another query for H.getOxyLoss and so on.
But Overwatch console is prob not a priority.

I guess you can close move this then.

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