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Rataca6060 - Moderator Application

Post by Rataca100 » 18 Nov 2017, 13:52

Byond ID:Rataca6060 (i believe it being enclosed on the left is ok?)

Colonial Marines Character: Oscar Tennant

Age:18+ (will give accurate age in Pm if needed)

Gender: Male

Timezone: GMT-0 (U.K timezone)

On average, how many hours are you available per week to moderate? I can do from when i wake up until i sleep on all days.

Do you have any previous experience in being staff (not just SS13)? I have seen at least several years ago, some admin tabs etc, so it snot totally new to me, but it will be a learning experience.

Did you play any of the previous Colonial Marine servers? I believe i did, if you count the one with the drop pod and any after that was updated out.

What are the 3 biggest servers you play on besides CM? Citadel and Aurora, hippie sometimes.

Provide links to any previous Colonial Marines applications that you've made:

Are you currently a staff member elsewhere (not just SS13)? If so, where? Nope. (that i know of)

Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on Colonial Marines? Nope

Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on ANY server? If so, which server, when, and what for? I have been perma banned on a few, no idea which ones or why anymore. None recently.

Are you familiar with the chat program Slack (its use is required)? I could probably learn how to use it.

Common Staff Situations:
Write a description of what you would do in each of the following situations. Do not write on the same line as the situation - use the space below it or make space as needed. Failure to do this proves your inability to follow instructions and your application will be automatically denied.

1. A player randomly shoots someone at round start and MPs have detained him.
Pm the Player who shot the other and check if it was accident or not, pending severity of shooting i will warn/ban the player and cite the correct way to escalate to lethal force. I will let the MP's handle it past that.


2. The ship has a breach to space and a bunch of players have died or are dying as a result.

I will check waht caused the breach. (Admin event, dropship or grief etc) I will seal up the the hole if its the latter two and ban/warn any players responsible. Not too sure what the stance on Healing is, if its allowed heal effected players. (latter two situations) I will screen shot the breach should it be a admin event for evidence, just in case.


3. You see a player walking around the ship naked and clearly lost.
PM a MP to go and tell him what to do, if a MP is not present or available, PM him to tell him the IC rules and where the armories are.

4. A player is being very rude to you in Adminhelps and requesting to speak to an Admin+ staff member.
Cite him rules about being nice to admins, ask any admins of that rank to contact him and if none available link him to the compliant section of the forums.


5. You notice a player with a name that doesn't fit our naming rules. The player is arguing that: They've used the name for several years, no one has told them to change it before, and that they didn't know it was a rule.
Cite him the rules, warn him to change it for next game and leave it on his notes he has been warned and needs to change it for next game. (pending severity of name) If its a major breach forcibly rename the mob and then warn him for next time.

6. You see a Maintenance Tech running around in armor and carrying a rifle. The security level is green with no threat present.
Watch him to make sure he doesn't shoot anyone and leave it to the MP's to handle.

7. You see a Squad Medic performing surgery on the planet. He claims it was because there were no doctors in the FOB.
Inform him of the rules and let him off with the warning and tell him to evac the marine to the ship should he need surgery.

8. The round is stagnating. There are 30 marines and 4 aliens. The marines won't leave the ship, and the aliens won't attack. What would you do, to "encourage" the sides to engage each other?
Pending on the evolution of he Xenos, i would RP a higher rank ordering the marines down to the planet or a orbital strike on the Xenos. Maybe sending a team down to ensure the marines redeploy on the planet.

9. The round ends, a MARINE starts shooting a hostile IRON BEAR and the IRON BEAR Adminhelps complaining he was killed after the round ended.
Tell him he is a hostile and its not EORG, cite to rules and complaint forum if not happy.

10. A marine is running around disarming, punching and stealing gear at round start.
PM him to stop, if he continues ban him. Banning if he kills someone or steals something he cannot have. (ID's, smart gun etc) If he continues to do it in a short space of time instant ban for failing RP. Put a note on the player about behavior should it continue.

11. A marine has killed another marine. When you ask him why, he said it was because the other marine had punched him.
Inform him of Role play guidelines and escalating force, give him a warning ban.

12. An issue arises that requires Admin+ abilities.
Attempt to make contact with a Admin+ to deal with the situation. take notes should it need to go into further rounds.

13. There are minor racist comments going on IC. 9 of the 10 people are laughing and RPing but one player gets offended and Adminhelps about it.
Tell them to ask a MP to deal with it and i would ask a higher admin for opinion on the comments.

14. A marine opens fire at round start in briefing killing multiple marines and instantly logs off.
Ban/ ask for a ban from a Admin+/Inform a Admin+

15. You see a player playing a xeno larva/chestburster run towards the frontlines and die.
Pm the player and warn about role playing, if it happens again ban/job ban

16. You see a xeno memeing, saying AYYLMAO, REEEEEE etc in hivemind chat.
Warn about correct RP.

17. A xeno player calls the shuttle a "dropship". A different xeno player complains to you that it's metagaming/failRP to call it a "dropship".
Tell him it is not. Cite to Forum complaint for staff/player if not happy.

18. A Command staff player at briefing near round-start mentions there are aliens on the planet.
Unless he is citing the Xenos specifically, nothing. The definition of alien matches up with most things on the planet but humans. If he is citing Xenos warn about RP standards.

19. A Marine kills another Marine on the EVAC Pod to take the last spot and claims it was RP as he was saving himself.
Check if it was Rped correctly, ban for grief or give a warning about it for future issues.

20. You see a fellow staff member give wrong information in an Adminhelp or incorrectly enforcing a rule.
Screen shot it and bring it up to a higher staff member and/or try and correct him via admin communications.

20a. You see a fellow staff member abusing his powers in-game.
Report to a higher staff member.

21. You see a player talking in OOC chat about what he did with your mom last night.
Hunt him down via IP and destroy him. Not do anything unless it was intended as a insult then warn him about Rule 1

Any additional information you'd like to add? When i use ban i mean the appropriate ban for the situation. Also is my CKEY being below my name on forums good enough since my forum name is not my BYOND name. I am hesitant to disclose some info via public, but i may be happy to disclose it in PM's should it be needed.

Note about above, i will always investigate the issue and PM the player should it not be just a IC issue, i will also make notes on anything that needs to be put in them.

Edit: I didn't read the admin protocols before making this, not too sure if its entirely relevant, but i am reading them now.
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Re: Rataca6060 - Moderator Application

Post by Jerkface00 » 18 Nov 2017, 14:19

The reason we ask people to read the staff Code of Conduct before they make an application for a moderator position is because it'll give you a grasp of what we're looking for moderators to do, generally.

Your answers aren't terrible, though I'd like to have more detail in how you investigate some instances and how you'd come to determining just what that "appropriate" ban would be in your mind with whatever situation you imagine coming up against given the examples above.

IE: in number 1 your response is good in checking with the player in starting by trying to find out if accidental, but then in a later question (15) you start off by looking to warn/ban the person without trying to find out why what happened happened.

The post has only been up for a short while, so I'm going to wait and see what others have to say on your responses, and go over them again myself later after you've had a chance to reply to whatever criticisms they/I have raised.

I haven't looked at your activity yet; I only just saw the post.
Your forum name will be changed to your Ckey if accepted as a trial mod - this is so other staff know who you are and are able to contact you across all the platforms we have (forums, in game, discord, etc).

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Re: Rataca6060 - Moderator Application

Post by Emeraldblood » 18 Nov 2017, 15:31

Alright, here's the review I got for you:
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Overall, this app is pretty well done. You showed interest in becoming a staff when I talked to you on the server and have definitely proved you know what it takes to be one. Normally I wait for a follow-up response before I place my verdict but I think you deserve the +1 now. Looking foward to hear your follow-up answers.
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Re: Rataca6060 - Moderator Application

Post by Rataca100 » 18 Nov 2017, 15:44

Jerkface00 wrote:
18 Nov 2017, 14:19

Your answers aren't terrible, though I'd like to have more detail in how you investigate some instances and how you'd come to determining just what that "appropriate" ban would be in your mind with whatever situation you imagine coming up against given the examples above.

IE: in number 1 your response is good in checking with the player in starting by trying to find out if accidental, but then in a later question (15) you start off by looking to warn/ban the person without trying to find out why what happened happened.

The post has only been up for a short while, so I'm going to wait and see what others have to say on your responses, and go over them again myself later after you've had a chance to reply to whatever criticisms they/I have raised.

I haven't looked at your activity yet; I only just saw the post.
Your forum name will be changed to your Ckey if accepted as a trial mod - this is so other staff know who you are and are able to contact you across all the platforms we have (forums, in game, discord, etc).
I streamlined the responses a little bit, in the Pm stage, i would always check notes and ask about the incident unless they needed to be banned right there and then to stop them.(mass RDM etc) I kind of assumed it was a expectation to Pm someone and ask, so i didn't feel the need to include that int eh start, it was assumption that was the start for every conversation.

As for how i would assess something, what rule they broke, what effect it had on the round and other people and how the staff want particular rule breaks to be punished would all be a factor. If in doubt, i would contact a Admin+ for help.

The Xeno larva one(?) I interpreted the wording to mean it was avoidable, so it would be a fail RP as a Xeno (perhaps) and Perhaps a unjust suicide. As they can see marines through walls and the larva's place in that state is not meant to be anywhere near the front it at least deserves a PM and mention. The intent would be to warn the player (putting it on notes or not) that he shouldn't be near the front line if avoidable. By all means if its a accident nothing would come of it, but it something i view as very hard to do by mistake. I wouldn't straight up job ban him though as thats pretty over the top for a first time offence. Edit: To elaborate, if marines pushed him, or he ran away after getting shot at, i wouldn't bother to PM him, i dont view those instances as admin help worthy. Basically, any alteration where the larva was running after realizing, got trapped or rushed by marines or burst in another spot or trying to help bigger xenos back to weeds would be ignored by me. I just meant if it was punishable, he would get a warning if i decided to punish him then a job ban if it was me again.

Hopefully that cleared it up and i interpreted your question correctly. thanks for the response
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Re: Rataca6060 - Moderator Application

Post by Rataca100 » 18 Nov 2017, 16:27

Emeraldblood wrote:
18 Nov 2017, 15:31
Alright, here's the review I got for you:







11. Good answer. What would you do if he had a warning on about improper escalation recently?

12. Good answer. How would you go about contacting the Admin?



14. An acceptable response. You'll want to place at least a 3-day ban on the account and depending on the damage done, you may want to step it up to a 7-day or perma. What would you do with the people shot?

15. It's a good idea to make sure the player at hand isn't new or just lost. You'd also want to make sure they didn't burst in a bad spot.

16. What would you do if they already had a warning on the matter?






20a. Good answer. How would you report it?


Overall, this app is pretty well done. You showed interest in becoming a staff when I talked to you on the server and have definitely proved you know what it takes to be one. Normally I wait for a follow-up response before I place my verdict but I think you deserve the +1 now. Looking foward to hear your follow-up answers.

In order: Temp ban for improper escilation, say 3-7 days first ban.

I would ask in forums or discord for a admin. (my byond friends list is too full to use that to contact admins. XP)

I would heal them if i had the ability to, since it was a bad RP reason they got shot i dont view it as IC for them to be healed.

Answered it in previous post, will make sure it was with malice before doing any punishment.

Temp ban as a warning or a xeno ban

Either via the staff report function or messaging one of the heads of staff on forums.

Double post because i didn't want to muddle the responses together.
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Re: Rataca6060 - Moderator Application

Post by Emeraldblood » 18 Nov 2017, 19:13

11. We have set ban times that normally start off at the bottom for the first offense and work up from there. 3 (hours) > 24 > 72. 168 hours (7 days) are usually reserved for Perma bans or "final warnings before a perma".
12. While you can contact a few on Discord, 95% of the time you'll probably want to use Slack. Anything server official is done on Slack. Never use the forums as that's going to be way too slow.
14. While trialmods lack aheal, full mods do, so you could heal them up.
15. Ya, context is always important for most cases. If you feel like someone does/doesn't deserve a ban, you can usually make that call. The overall point is we want players to realize what was wrong and have them improve on that.
16. In the case of LRP for Xeno, you'd want to give a ban first off, starting with 3 and then 24. After that, it's a Xeno job ban. Job bans are always permanent so you'll usually want to apply server bans first as a warning before you move into a job ban.
20a. You won't want to make a staff report on the forums for this in most cases. Best thing to do is PM a head staff on Slack (over the forums).

Overall, you got some stuff to learn but this is nothing your trial run won't help fix. I believe you'll make it so hope to see you on the staff team in a week or two! I may ask a few more questions in the future if I feel it needs to, but best of luck with your application.
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Re: Rataca6060 - Moderator Application

Post by Sheodir » 19 Nov 2017, 05:54

I don't have that big a problem with any of the answers in particular, but the bad grammar and your behavior in the Discord server (where you often spout random memes, tag random people for comments and quite honestly sometimes just speak nonsense) doesn't fill me with the greatest confidence. I also never particularly saw you in-game despite being plenty active in the last two weeks.

Neutral on my part.

EDIT: Your forum conduct, however, seems miles better than your Discord one. Might change my vote depending on how this thread goes.
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Re: Rataca6060 - Moderator Application

Post by Challenger » 19 Nov 2017, 09:44

seconding sheodir.

based on your behaviour in discord I'm wondering if you're telling the truth about being 18+
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Re: Rataca6060 - Moderator Application

Post by Rataca100 » 20 Nov 2017, 16:07

Sheodir wrote:
19 Nov 2017, 05:54
I also never particularly saw you in-game despite being plenty active in the last two weeks.

Neutral on my part.

EDIT: Your forum conduct, however, seems miles better than your Discord one. Might change my vote depending on how this thread goes.
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My typing is usually readable in game though and from Emerald i have no notes so my in game conduct is fine. No comment on discord, no neutral parties.
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Re: Rataca6060 - Moderator Application

Post by slc97 » 21 Nov 2017, 15:22

Rataca100 wrote:
20 Nov 2017, 16:07
No comment on discord, no neutral parties.
Mkay, well I need a comment on your discord behavior. We've removed staff members before for overly inappropriate, memey, or unprofessional behavior outside of the game on our other services. Your "No comment" does not reassure me.

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Re: Rataca6060 - Moderator Application

Post by Emeraldblood » 21 Nov 2017, 15:44

To add to the discord comment, while I don't track discord, it does make me wonder. Being these are nothing really more than people just saying that you may have acted questionably on the discord, I don't think it's something that will really get in the way of the application itself. That said, as stated by Slc, if you're going to be a staff you're going to be held to higher standards on the discord than the normal populace.
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Re: Rataca6060 - Moderator Application

Post by Rataca100 » 21 Nov 2017, 16:17

slc97 wrote:
21 Nov 2017, 15:22
Mkay, well I need a comment on your discord behavior. We've removed staff members before for overly inappropriate, memey, or unprofessional behavior outside of the game on our other services. Your "No comment" does not reassure me.
Inquire with Vitor (one of the discord mods) and get back to me if there are any concerns to be brought up. Everyone standards for what is too much varies, but i dont think i have been overly memey or inappropriate. Unproffesional maybe, but im not staff yet, can change if i am expected to be professional.
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Re: Rataca6060 - Moderator Application

Post by slc97 » 23 Nov 2017, 13:00

So, what I've been informed of is that you were overall being annoying and were regularly pinging people over and over again even after you were asked not to. I could overlook this normally, but I mainly dislike your response to my original question.

The responsible thing to do would have been to immediately just admit your actions and hold yourself accountable. Instead, you directed me to another staff member and took very little accountability for your own actions.

I'm going to say -1 and that, were I still senior, I would outright deny this because I do not trust you with the responsibility to hold others accountable when you've failed to do the same for yourself.

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Re: Rataca6060 - Moderator Application

Post by Rataca100 » 23 Nov 2017, 16:36

slc97 wrote:
23 Nov 2017, 13:00
So, what I've been informed of is that you were overall being annoying and were regularly pinging people over and over again even after you were asked not to. I could overlook this normally, but I mainly dislike your response to my original question.

The responsible thing to do would have been to immediately just admit your actions and hold yourself accountable. Instead, you directed me to another staff member and took very little accountability for your own actions.

I'm going to say -1 and that, were I still senior, I would outright deny this because I do not trust you with the responsibility to hold others accountable when you've failed to do the same for yourself.
The two people who brought it up where the two effected/lodged a complaint,so i wanted you to ask the staff who dealt with it to get a independent view. I assumed you did not ask victor(originally) but i did stop after i was warned and i was warned several hours after i did it. As in, i did the thing i got warned for several hours before i got warned. I also decided to ask you to ask the mod as i presumed they wouldn't post a response here before it seemed like i was being purposely slow/lost interest that and i dont know the policy about asking. Heinsight is a cruel mistress

If its any consideration, i haven't been warned since. Edit: Also, the way its worded makes it look worse than how i perceived it. I only tagged them a few times in a short space, enough to be considered annoying? yes, but not enough to be called "regularly". This is from memory at least. I only remember tagging one party 3 times in a row.
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Re: Rataca6060 - Moderator Application

Post by Jerkface00 » 24 Nov 2017, 12:35

So, the discord thing seems like a non-issue to me for the purposes of whether or not you'd be fit for being a moderator.

What concerns me is when questioned about it, it looks like you were trying to avoid explaining what happened because you thought it might make you look bad or something.
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The responsible thing to do would have been to immediately just admit your actions and hold yourself accountable. Instead, you directed me to another staff member and took very little accountability for your own actions.
Before I could consider approving you, I need you to persuade me that either 1) that isn't the case; or 2) that you understand why that would be so damning and why it wouldn't happen in the future if you were approved. Persuading me of the first condition would go a much longer way then the 2nd condition.

Otherwise your replies to the applications' other criticisms are fine.

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Re: Rataca6060 - Moderator Application

Post by Rataca100 » 24 Nov 2017, 15:26

Jerkface00 wrote:
24 Nov 2017, 12:35
So, the discord thing seems like a non-issue to me for the purposes of whether or not you'd be fit for being a moderator.

What concerns me is when questioned about it, it looks like you were trying to avoid explaining what happened because you thought it might make you look bad or something.



Before I could consider approving you, I need you to persuade me that either 1) that isn't the case; or 2) that you understand why that would be so damning and why it wouldn't happen in the future if you were approved. Persuading me of the first condition would go a much longer way then the 2nd condition.

Otherwise your replies to the applications' other criticisms are fine.

At the time, for what ever reason i viewed it as a personal problem/inappropriate to comment on with the effected party. Its not like i denied anything happened or tried to hide it, granted i view it as being over exaggerated but it wasn't for any bad reason i was Avoiding it. (lack of better words) Kind of didn't want to accuse opposing party of anything either. Those are the only thoughts i can remember as to why i didnt comment on it originally. As for now, hind sight is a cruel mistress and i probably would go back and just explain it if if i could.

As for the second condition, understood how it can be damming and i have actively explained about the situation. No reason it should happen if i am approved, i wouldn't view anything in mod duties in the same way as this.

Please inquire if you need any more elaboration.
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Re: Rataca6060 - Moderator Application

Post by Jerkface00 » 27 Nov 2017, 16:42

I'm not persuaded by your last post that you understand why not being open and complete would be a disqualifying issue for a position as a moderator, and that you would ensure that lack of openness would not persist into the future. Your last post read more as an apology rather then as a means to show me that you could be trusted with telling complete and open facts when dealing with situations that people eventually will come into conflict with you as to both matters of fact and interpretation of rules.

This application for a position as a trial moderator is denied.

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