Player Report against Luke Compton for Incompetency as a Commander

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Player Report against Luke Compton for Incompetency as a Commander

Post by Arkter » 04 Nov 2017, 08:27

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Character Name: Luke Compton

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results)Date: Saturday,Nov 4 2017, Time: 07:15:23

What rule(s) were broken:Improper Battlefield Execution
Description of the incident:
So the shift starts and luke compton was commander while i was XO. For some reason he dosent like the way my IC speaks due to his medical records and backstory. With a touretts type of syndrome i have made for myself. Which causes my IC to say 'ta' at the end of every line. After Luke asked me to shut up which i refused to IC. He tried to demote me and sent me to the frontlines. I refused to give my ID and he pulled his metaba. Shooting me multiple times and killing me calling it a 'Battlefield Execution'. He then later announced to the marines i have been killed for not refusing to hand over my ID. What he failed to announce was he also killed me for saying 'ta' at the end of my every sentence.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
Dead Executed Body at Morgue: http://prntscr.com/h644aa
NGGJamie has also seen this after i ahelped it. And asked me to make a player report as this is out of his jurisdiction
There is also a CL IC player by the name of Mr. Koldie Weiss that has seen the execution first hand
How you would punish the accused:
Revoking their Whitelist status as Commander for executing me the XO for a very poor ic reason whilst trying to pass it off as being 'normal'. And also a one day to a three day ban to rethink what they have done as Commander

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Re: Player Report against Luke Compton for Incompetency as a Commander

Post by Sir Lordington » 04 Nov 2017, 08:36

Here we go again. First off, logs: https://pastebin.com/vbxut0wH

Now, beyond having tourettes breaking the physically and mentally fit rule, it would disqualify you for duty. We had a discussion about it and I decided that having Tourettes means you are not qualified to command. Not wanting you wandering around the ship, I decided to demote you and send you to the frontline. You refused to hand over your ID, repeatedly, after several requests and warnings and in front of the Company Liaison, therefore undermining my authority. A CL who had displayed clear lack of knowledge about who was in charge, to make matters worse.

So no, I didn't execute you for saying TA. You were executed for repeatedly refusing the direct orders of an angry CO.

You were clearly baiting that execution, as far as I can tell.
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Re: Player Report against Luke Compton for Incompetency as a Commander

Post by Arkter » 04 Nov 2017, 08:50

I have displayed this syndrome openly towards the beggining of the shift many times and not one admin inquired me about it. Secondly I believe that having a demotion must have me committing a serious offence/crime however.. I may be wrong about this

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Re: Player Report against Luke Compton for Incompetency as a Commander

Post by Arkter » 04 Nov 2017, 10:34

In addition to my reply.. If I was trying to bait a execution I would have done something much more servere.. And the execution in general was uncalled for.. Apparently annoying the commander is a great way to get field executed

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Re: Player Report against Luke Compton for Incompetency as a Commander

Post by Arkter » 04 Nov 2017, 10:49

As for my third reply to your opening post. I would like to tell you that Battlefield Executions are for emrgency purposes only if I am correct.. When a proper formal execution can't be conducted at the brig

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Re: Player Report against Luke Compton for Incompetency as a Commander

Post by Nicboone » 04 Nov 2017, 12:20

you are aware that you are not allowed to play as someone with a mental or physical disorder right?
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Re: Player Report against Luke Compton for Incompetency as a Commander

Post by taketheshot56 » 04 Nov 2017, 16:51

Id like to contribute as a character witness to this report because Ive worked extensively with the both of you, CO Compton has this undeserved rep for doing shitty BEs that is completely false, every BE has its reasons and every single one ive seen him do as SO or otherwise has been within the rules, although i was not present there when this took place ive seen you Arkter exhibit this behavior before and quite frankly reading the logs makes you seem like a whiny child in IC. Your verbal tic is against the rules and is annoying to the point where you should be demoted and it makes sense ICly to demote you as you are unfit for duty with a mental illness, straight up refusing to disobey an order when you are a danger to others in command is perfect grounds for a BE. Undermining the COs authority infront of the crew is akin to mutiny.
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Re: Player Report against Luke Compton for Incompetency as a Commander

Post by Mook476 » 04 Nov 2017, 18:18

Nicboone wrote:
04 Nov 2017, 12:20
you are aware that you are not allowed to play as someone with a mental or physical disorder right?
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Re: Player Report against Luke Compton for Incompetency as a Commander

Post by Arkter » 05 Nov 2017, 08:30

Well. As my argument to that. The rule was set in place so marines can communicate,work efficently. And not allowing IC's to be a cripple for the sake of being a cripple. NGGJamie has inquired me about it and asked me to stop saying 'ta' until they can define it clearly. After awhile. He pmed me and said i was allowed to say 'Ta' as he has talked about it with another admin and both have agreed that saying 'ta' wont violate the IC rules of mental disorders. As it would not disrupt communication or work flow.

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Re: Player Report against Luke Compton for Incompetency as a Commander

Post by NGGJamie » 05 Nov 2017, 16:56

As he said above, I discussed the tick with Freemysoul as I felt asking him his thoughts as a second opinion might be prudent after originally asking Arkter if he could stop the tick until a final ruling is made here. We went over the RP guideline in question here, and we don't think his tourettes, in it's current form, violates the RP guidelines and the interpretation is being taken a bit off-mark from the source material thusfar.
RP Guidelines wrote:All MARINES are able-bodied. All Humans assigned to the Almayer are of Sound-Mind. (Meaning, there are no crippled marines on roundstart, and none of the ships crew at all have any mental issues that would cause them to act crazy or unreasonable at roundstart).
Let's briefly go over this guideline and exactly what it's forbidding.

1. All marines are able-bodied.
2. All marines are of sound mind. (IE, not crazy, have proper judgement)
3. Nobody is crippled physically.
4. None of the ships crew at all have any mental issues that would cause them to act crazy or unreasonable

That last part of #4 is key here, he has a voice quirk. As far as I know he's never, or hasn't consistently in my time observing him; RPed his tourette's as having more disruptive symptoms like random bodily movements, or any problems with communication aside from adding a short word at the end of his sentences. The spirit of this guideline is largely to prevent people from wanting to be limbless wheelchair marines or other major physical detriments for the hell of it, and prevent people from going around harming people for no reason saying "but my character is a psychopath lol". His tic does not cause any active problem for the round, doesn't needlessly limit him as a character, or affect him in a way that lets him try to get away with more than the average character by saying "but I'm crazy".

I informed Arkter when I told him he could continue using it that this complaint might rule otherwise because he does stand in a somewhat grey area. So for the sake of a final ruling, don't take this as being that. This is a temporary ruling to let him use his voice tic until someone more appropriate comes around to say whether it's all right or not. However the interpretation I have of this guideline does not appear to restrict this sort of disability, or all disabilities in general.
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Re: Player Report against Luke Compton for Incompetency as a Commander

Post by Feweh » 10 Nov 2017, 14:37

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